Hi!
I'm new in armor modeling. This is one of my first tanks on which I work.
It's Dragon 1/35 premium edition kit.
This is what I done so far. Some things still haven't fixed yet.
I'm just waiting for color and epoxy kit for making zimmerit on it.
All advices and tips are welcomes, also as links, references and similar.
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hrmodeler
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Posted: Thursday, June 28, 2007 - 07:38 AM UTC
JackBlock
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Posted: Friday, June 29, 2007 - 04:09 AM UTC
Do you have any more pics of your project?
Dave
Dave
EagleSmack
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Posted: Friday, June 29, 2007 - 08:48 AM UTC
Nice little kit you have there. You can go to the local hardware and get a small container of joint compound (not spackle) and use that for zimmermit. It sets well, it is easy to work with and comes off easy if you make a mistake.
Edit: I would not use epoxy for zimmermit. Once it hardens it is as hard as stone. If you made a mistake you are most likely to break the model getting it off than getting the epoxy off. I would seriously consider using something else.
Edit: I would not use epoxy for zimmermit. Once it hardens it is as hard as stone. If you made a mistake you are most likely to break the model getting it off than getting the epoxy off. I would seriously consider using something else.
hrmodeler
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Posted: Saturday, June 30, 2007 - 09:52 AM UTC
Thanks for advice! Some people recommended me epoxy, because I don't have anything fine to find around here. Are you meaning on joint compound for plastic or the other one for metal?
No, I don't have more photos. But it will be soon as I work on model.
No, I don't have more photos. But it will be soon as I work on model.
EagleSmack
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Posted: Saturday, June 30, 2007 - 12:23 PM UTC
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Thanks for advice! Some people recommended me epoxy, because I don't have anything fine to find around here. Are you meaning on joint compound for plastic or the other one for metal?
No, I don't have more photos. But it will be soon as I work on model.
There are all kinds of techniques for zimmermit. I actually started a zimmermit thread a few weeks ago looking for the same advice as I am doing a Tamiya Panther that calls for it.
I mean REAL joint compound that you would use on the walls in your house. I do not mean the putty we use for seams for our models. However in that thread I was talking about some people did suggest modeling putty for zimmermit.
My opinion on epoxy is that when it hardens, it hardens like stone. Also as it starts to harden it becomes very difficult to work with. Granted there are different types of epoxy with different cure (or hardening) times. It would be tough to scrape off if you want to make some battle damage or if you decided to redo an area.
I am not sure of your level of skill with modeling but some of the fellows on this forum are truly experts and tackling zimmermit with epoxy would be easy for them.
I know this post is getting long but I was just at a hobby store and they actually had photo etched zimmermit that you glue to the side of the AFV. I was amazed and was considering buying it but I want to try to do it like you are.
hrmodeler
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Posted: Saturday, June 30, 2007 - 06:56 PM UTC
I have King Tiger in progress too where I put Eduard PE zimmerit, but I'm not so satisfied how it looks so I'm trying to make it myself.
Posted: Sunday, July 01, 2007 - 02:19 AM UTC
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I have King Tiger in progress too where I put Eduard PE zimmerit, but I'm not so satisfied how it looks so I'm trying to make it myself.
A friend showed me a model he made, with eduard zimmerit and it did not look good. The pattern was simply too perfect and not enough relief either. He took it off again, and replaced with Attak zimmerit .... what a difference!
Having used both cavalier and attak, Id recommend both.
Buying epoxy might be slightly cheaper .... but I dont want to gamble with an inferior result ... so I buy either of the fore-mentioned suppliers. You cannot compare the results with etched zimmerit. Etched zimmerit might be the way to go for smaller scales, but as I dont build anything other than 1/35, cant give an opinion on that!
hrmodeler
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Posted: Sunday, July 01, 2007 - 02:42 AM UTC
Where I can get Attack zimmerit?
hrmodeler
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Posted: Monday, July 16, 2007 - 10:30 AM UTC
Here is little more progress.