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Soviet Winter uniforms c1941
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Posted: Friday, November 30, 2007 - 04:03 AM UTC
Hello,

I'm planning a dio in 1/72 with a T-34/76 and a KV-2 set in the winter of '41. I have a set of Presier's tank riders but need to mod them into winter clothing/eqpt.

Does anyone have any pics or links to use as reference for this?

On a more basic note--I think my dio combination of a T-34/76 a KV-2 set in winter is historically ok-am I right?


Cheers

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Posted: Friday, November 30, 2007 - 06:26 AM UTC
I read that the KV-2 pretty much disappeared after the summer of 1941, but undoubtedly there were still a few in service during the winter.
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Posted: Friday, November 30, 2007 - 08:38 AM UTC
Cheers Tom!
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Posted: Friday, November 30, 2007 - 12:38 PM UTC
A good online Soviet uniform reference is RKKA in WW2:

http://rkkaww2.armchairgeneral.com/uniform.htm
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Posted: Friday, November 30, 2007 - 01:01 PM UTC
Aha-that's helpful-thanks Pat!

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Posted: Friday, November 30, 2007 - 04:28 PM UTC

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I read that the KV-2 pretty much disappeared after the summer of 1941, but undoubtedly there were still a few in service during the winter.



There were about 240 KV-2s built, all before the end of 1941. Most were expended in the frontier fighting in the summer of 1941, but a few survived. There are some photos of a few in winter whitewash, and a grand total of 8 made it as far as Kursk in 1943, although I have never seen a photo of that.
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Posted: Friday, November 30, 2007 - 10:20 PM UTC
Hi Danny

This is a gallery of a model I stumbled across 18months or so ago that inspired me to get into modelling in the first place and I've always wanted to do a KV-2 in winter whitewash since. So thanks for the info.......



Cheers


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Posted: Saturday, December 01, 2007 - 10:02 AM UTC
I have plenty of images of russian troops stored on my PC for reference for sculpting as i mainly sculpt ww2 russian figures.Drop me a PM with your e-mail and i will send you some,i have plenty showing winter dress from overcoats,padded jackets to winter cammo.

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Posted: Monday, December 03, 2007 - 04:55 AM UTC
Fourth line on this page of re-creations

http://www.rkka.ru/uniform/files/i_arm.htm

Rank/arm of service patches on the collars and NO shoulder boards for 1941.

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Posted: Monday, December 03, 2007 - 05:25 AM UTC
Hi David,

Those are fantastic pics. Am I right in thinking that the 3rd on line 4 is an officer?

Thanks-as ever!


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Posted: Monday, December 03, 2007 - 08:56 PM UTC
This one?

http://www.rkka.ru/uniform/files/arm4.htm

His rank is the first word in the description and is 'Efreitor' - Corporal

The other two are a 'Red Army man' (private) and a sergeant (second in row).

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Posted: Monday, December 03, 2007 - 10:38 PM UTC

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Hi Danny

This is a gallery of a model I stumbled across 18months or so ago that inspired me to get into modelling in the first place and I've always wanted to do a KV-2 in winter whitewash since. So thanks for the info.......



Cheers


A



That's a great image, as you say inspiring. Do you have a web address, I'd like to see more if I could.

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Posted: Monday, December 03, 2007 - 10:43 PM UTC

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Hi Danny

This is a gallery of a model I stumbled across 18months or so ago that inspired me to get into modelling in the first place and I've always wanted to do a KV-2 in winter whitewash since. So thanks for the info.......



Cheers


A



That's a great image, as you say inspiring. Do you have a web address, I'd like to see more if I could.

Alan



http://homepage.ntlworld.com/rs_wells/Index.htm

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Posted: Monday, December 03, 2007 - 11:39 PM UTC
Hi David,

Thanks for the info. That's really helpful...those are great images.

Hi Alan,

It's a great collection of dios. I was just wowed at how he made plastic look so convincingly like metal. I've since seen many similar examples of that kind of talent on these boards - but that was my first sight of what is possible in this medium.

Cheers


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Posted: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 - 01:20 AM UTC
Imagine our joy if the soldier looking through the turret hatch had his (1/35) camera with him

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/rs_wells/Dioramas/Tank402_Maxi.JPG

BTW don't copy the locking bar on the hatch, it's a work of fiction - the hatch was bolted shut and opened to change the barrel, not for escape.

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Posted: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 - 02:19 AM UTC
Oh ,that'll be shut I think!!!

The most I intend to have open is possible the driver's hatch. Whilst I am gradually drifting into the world of aftermatket parts I am still fighting shy of purchasing full interiors!


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Posted: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 - 03:03 AM UTC
The interior of the door looks like this



No-one has yet found decent references for the interior of the KV-2 - FSM had an article ages ago, but that was a work of fiction.

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Posted: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 - 03:47 AM UTC
...another good reason to leave it! Nice photo though.

Presumably everything from the turret down was the same as the KV-1 (?) But I can't imagine there was much room in the turret apart from the breech and some ammo bins....but I ain't scratching that in 1/72..



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