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sauceman
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Posted: Monday, December 10, 2007 - 03:25 PM UTC
More new offerings from AEF Designs, including the Coyote, Lav 3, Lav TUA, and Bison APC.

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Ordered the LAV 3 kit!

cheers
ADNeate
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Posted: Monday, December 10, 2007 - 03:40 PM UTC
Haven't been hearing good things about the LAV-III kit. People who have bought have been generally unimpressed with the quality and many of the parts are so badly warped they are unuseable. If it's not too late I'd cancel the order and wait for Miloslav over at Real Models to finish up his LAV-III conversion.
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Posted: Monday, December 10, 2007 - 04:14 PM UTC
The AEF designs Canadian conversions have been out for at least a couple of weeks already.....some guys over on the Modern Canadian Vehicles site have already received their LAV III conversions....and there some excellent comments made about some of the parts......let the buyer beware.

http://www.network54.com/Forum/169232/thread/1195942509/

http://www.network54.com/Forum/169232/thread/1195747706/

http://www.network54.com/Forum/169232/thread/1193623106/

Personally, I am going to wait for the Real Models LAV III conversion and the MLM Coyote conversion.


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Posted: Monday, December 10, 2007 - 05:17 PM UTC

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The AEF designs Canadian conversions have been out for at least a couple of weeks already.....some guys over on the Modern Canadian Vehicles site have already received their LAV III conversions....and there some excellent comments made about some of the parts......let the buyer beware.

http://www.network54.com/Forum/169232/thread/1195942509/

http://www.network54.com/Forum/169232/thread/1195747706/

http://www.network54.com/Forum/169232/thread/1193623106/

Personally, I am going to wait for the Real Models LAV III conversion and the MLM Coyote conversion.





I have no doubt that those will be better kits than AEF's offering. But I go overseas early in the new year. I want my LAV III model, (regardless of quality or rushed construction on my part) on the shelf before I go!
LeoCmdr
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Posted: Monday, December 10, 2007 - 05:54 PM UTC
Trevor,

Have fun with your LAV III build and stay safe in the sand box when you head over.
sauceman
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Posted: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 - 02:03 PM UTC

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The AEF designs Canadian conversions have been out for at least a couple of weeks already.....some guys over on the Modern Canadian Vehicles site have already received their LAV III conversions....and there some excellent comments made about some of the parts......let the buyer beware.

http://www.network54.com/Forum/169232/thread/1195942509/

http://www.network54.com/Forum/169232/thread/1195747706/

http://www.network54.com/Forum/169232/thread/1193623106/

Personally, I am going to wait for the Real Models LAV III conversion and the MLM Coyote conversion.





I have no doubt that those will be better kits than AEF's offering. But I go overseas early in the new year. I want my LAV III model, (regardless of quality or rushed construction on my part) on the shelf before I go!



I'm in the same boat, deploying in April and would like to build one before i leave. Have read both good things and bad about this company, for 50 bucks i'll chance it.

cheers
muttley
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Posted: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 - 03:52 PM UTC

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I'm in the same boat, deploying in April and would like to build one before i leave. Have read both good things and bad about this company, for 50 bucks i'll chance it.

cheers



you'll have more than 50 bucks after you deploy as long as you dont tell your wife about it, so buy and buy away, spoil yourself!

your gona miss the smell of liquid glue for 6 months
LeoCmdr
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Posted: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 - 04:07 PM UTC
When you guys start building your LAV IIIs keep us update. I hope the builds go great for you guys.

There will be lots of new modern Canadian conversions when you guys get back safe and sound...trust me.
f1matt
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Posted: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 - 04:26 PM UTC
Now if only Dragon would release a set of Gen2 modern Canadian soldiers. I know. Don't hold my breath.

I'm gonna wait for Miloslav to release his conversion for the LAVIII. I don't want to chance AEF even though it is tempting.
sauceman
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Posted: Wednesday, December 12, 2007 - 01:58 PM UTC

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I'm in the same boat, deploying in April and would like to build one before i leave. Have read both good things and bad about this company, for 50 bucks i'll chance it.

cheers



you'll have more than 50 bucks after you deploy as long as you dont tell your wife about it, so buy and buy away, spoil yourself!

your gona miss the smell of liquid glue for 6 months



6 months, I wish! we're goin for 9. More if the mandate does not get extended.

cheers
ADNeate
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Posted: Wednesday, December 12, 2007 - 02:17 PM UTC
Extension of the mandate seems unlikely the public opinion polls aren't a sure bet either way though. There might be a full pull-out or more likely a change in the context of the mission to reconstruction efforts and maybe Air-support from the CF-18s for other ISAF troops in the south. Anyway I'm a political science minor so this kind of stuff is my particular fortay.
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Posted: Wednesday, December 12, 2007 - 02:22 PM UTC


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Extension of the mandate seems unlikely the public opinion polls aren't a sure bet either way though. There might be a full pull-out or more likely a change in the context of the mission to reconstruction efforts and maybe Air-support from the CF-18s for other ISAF troops in the south. Anyway I'm a political science minor so this kind of stuff is my particular fortay.





I broke down and ordered the TUA .... and the LAV III for a friend ....

Tom
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Posted: Wednesday, December 12, 2007 - 02:44 PM UTC
What's happening with the LAV TUA? I've only one of them with its wheels rolling- and that, regrettably, was during a funeral.

Are they going to be deployed? I'm holding off modeling a TUA until I see it in the field. A 1/35 LAV Engineer variant would be most welcome however
LeoCmdr
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Posted: Wednesday, December 12, 2007 - 04:41 PM UTC
Andrew,

Political Science is your minor and that kind of stuff is your fortay?

Professional Armoured Soldiering was my major and training for war commanding a Leopard was my fortay.....What was my thesis?....Train hard to go into combat for as long as it takes and kill the enemy.

As I hope you well know Soldiers should not be concerned about mission extensions or public opinion poles when bullets start flying and all that matters is your buddy beside you. A mission re-focus to reconstruction tasks can't take place until the Taliban are no longer a threat to the soldiers doing the reconstruction or the civilians living in the area.....there is already lots of reconstruction going on by ISAF troops only for some of it to be blown up or burned by the Taliban within a short time period to intimidate or scare the civilians....and then for it to be rebuilt again by ISAF troops.....a change of mission will not solve this issue...killing Taliban will.


Trevor,

The LAV III TUA is alive and well. Echo Company, LdSH(RC) in Edmonton is a fully operational LAV III TUA Company. They have successfully completed the Reliability, Availability, Maintainability, and Durability (RAMD) testing. There is no official word yet as to whether or not the LAV III TUA will deploy to Afghanistan....obviously there is no enemy armour threat.....but a TOW would be very effective on Taliban bunkers....but then again the Leopards are already doing that very well with 105 mm HESH and 120 mm HEAT rounds. We will have to wait and see if they deploy or stay in Edmonton.

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Posted: Wednesday, December 12, 2007 - 05:13 PM UTC
Well said Jason, well said indeed......

Bob
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Posted: Thursday, December 13, 2007 - 03:57 AM UTC
But important, anyway...

To you gentlemen who are going overseas, or who have been overseas: Thank You.

You do so and have done so with this (civilian) Canadian's full support. I wish more of us shared this attitude. Your patriotism, your love for Canada, counts for a lot in my books. Again, thank you.
sauceman
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Posted: Friday, December 14, 2007 - 01:48 PM UTC

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:[]-- But important, anyway...

To you gentlemen who are going overseas, or who have been overseas: Thank You.

You do so and have done so with this (civilian) Canadian's full support. I wish more of us shared this attitude. Your patriotism, your love for Canada, counts for a lot in my books. Again, thank you.



Thanxs for your support Lewis.

Wherever I end up in Afghanistan, or anywhere else in this world for that matter, you can rest assured that I always wear the Maple Leaf with pride.

cheers
ADNeate
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Posted: Friday, December 14, 2007 - 02:46 PM UTC
I think the vast majority of Canadians support the troops, irregardless of their views on the mission. As for the politics of it, well the uninformed many are ruled by the incompetent few. It's a shame politics are playing such a major role in current conflicts, I wish more nations would do what's right for Afghanistan rather than what the public opinon polls say.

Anyway enough of that malarkey! Good luck on the LAV-IIIs and get back here safe so you can build the one from Real Model.
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Posted: Friday, December 14, 2007 - 07:22 PM UTC
Good luck, keep your head down and especially your backside if you have to hit the dirt.. That goes from a Vietnam Era Vet.. 71-75 USN
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