My Sherman M4A3 105mm. My first ever white washed tank. I entered it in the white wash campaign, it may not be the quality other memebers achieve, but you'll have to start somewhere.
So tell me what you think, and how I can make it better!
Thanks!
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Sherman M4A3 105mm White washed
patton76
West-Vlaaderen, Belgium
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Posted: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 - 01:55 PM UTC
liberator
Luzon, Philippines
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Posted: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 - 04:31 PM UTC
hi dave, looking good..that's the fun part. it'll take longer now to finish that. are you using regular decals? you're right putting them earlier. mine just starting to 'silver'..any tip to correct them. thanks for sharing. ed
HONEYCUT
Victoria, Australia
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Posted: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 - 06:19 PM UTC
Gday Dave
I think you have done a good job here mate! All the details pop out at the viewer. This appears to be built OOB, and as such I won't start on what you could do in the way of tweaks and such for the kit.
There are little things you can do to mix it up a bit. Things like turning the .50cal to nearly square with the tank and tilt it so the barrel points either up or down a little, and same thing with the turret searchlight. I know it is fixed in position, but with some careful cutting and repositioning it is possible....
Just out of interests sake, (and not suggesting you do a thing to yours) the actual tank was whitewashed in what appears to be swirled motion as per the use of mops, rags or brooms etc. They actually nearly completely obscured the tactical number 58 and the turret star in the pic, so one is to assume that they covered most everything!
For a first white wash I reckon it is good, but maybe 'safe'? What I mean is that you can now add some rain streaks, muddy crew bootprints, fuel stains, oil stains, rust stains (many of the slapdash whitewashes were lime based, and I believe produced a surface rust.)
Good stuff
Brad
I think you have done a good job here mate! All the details pop out at the viewer. This appears to be built OOB, and as such I won't start on what you could do in the way of tweaks and such for the kit.
There are little things you can do to mix it up a bit. Things like turning the .50cal to nearly square with the tank and tilt it so the barrel points either up or down a little, and same thing with the turret searchlight. I know it is fixed in position, but with some careful cutting and repositioning it is possible....
Just out of interests sake, (and not suggesting you do a thing to yours) the actual tank was whitewashed in what appears to be swirled motion as per the use of mops, rags or brooms etc. They actually nearly completely obscured the tactical number 58 and the turret star in the pic, so one is to assume that they covered most everything!
For a first white wash I reckon it is good, but maybe 'safe'? What I mean is that you can now add some rain streaks, muddy crew bootprints, fuel stains, oil stains, rust stains (many of the slapdash whitewashes were lime based, and I believe produced a surface rust.)
Good stuff
Brad
jimbrae
Provincia de Lugo, Spain / Espaņa
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Posted: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 - 08:18 PM UTC
Adding to Brad's comments - I really like what you've done with it but there's a couple of points you might want to consider...
Firstly, whitewash was rarely (as Brad said) sprayed anything, including mops was used to apply it. Secondly, as whitewash was never as good quality as the factory applied paint, it would streak, come off in patches etc. in other words, a very unven finish..
So how can you recreate that? I've always found that using acrylic white (or even white Pelikan Plaka poster paint) appliied with a flat brush, can get some convincing effects - follow that up with a (VERY) gentle 'scouring' with fine-grade steel wool gives you a nice worn effect. The effect you're looking for is worn - even rain would start washing off whitewash applying washes of the base color over the whitewash also gives that effect...
Don't take this as criticism, the effect you have is good - it's just a notoriously difficult effect to get...
Firstly, whitewash was rarely (as Brad said) sprayed anything, including mops was used to apply it. Secondly, as whitewash was never as good quality as the factory applied paint, it would streak, come off in patches etc. in other words, a very unven finish..
So how can you recreate that? I've always found that using acrylic white (or even white Pelikan Plaka poster paint) appliied with a flat brush, can get some convincing effects - follow that up with a (VERY) gentle 'scouring' with fine-grade steel wool gives you a nice worn effect. The effect you're looking for is worn - even rain would start washing off whitewash applying washes of the base color over the whitewash also gives that effect...
Don't take this as criticism, the effect you have is good - it's just a notoriously difficult effect to get...
neil22
Cotes-d`Armor, France
Joined: August 12, 2007
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Posted: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 - 11:11 PM UTC
hi
i like it, welldone. i havent yet tryed a white wash tank yet. i dont have an airbrush, i brush paint. does anyone have any tips for how to white wash with a brush?? it must be possable as the real stuff was often brushed on i belive. i just dont really know where to start.
thanks
neil
i like it, welldone. i havent yet tryed a white wash tank yet. i dont have an airbrush, i brush paint. does anyone have any tips for how to white wash with a brush?? it must be possable as the real stuff was often brushed on i belive. i just dont really know where to start.
thanks
neil
patton76
West-Vlaaderen, Belgium
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Posted: Thursday, February 28, 2008 - 02:48 AM UTC
@ Ed: for decals, I spray a coat of future on the tank, then apply the decals, and then seal them with future. I think with applying some future you can correct the silvering, at least that worked for me... But I'm not an expert, far from!
@ Brad: Yes, it's build out of the box. The machine gun is not fixed, so I can move it anyway I want. I know that I could wheater it some more, with dust, rain stripes, oil, etc. But I'm afraid to ruin my model, since I don't yet master those techniques... I applies a wash of burnt sienna, and a pin wash of black, mixed with raw umber. That turned out rather good, I think. This model was the first one I tried some new techniques out, and I was surprised that it turned out rather good. But with anything, the fear of ruining what you already done is great. But I will work some more on it.
@ Jim, I absolutely don't take it as criticism! I love all your remarks and tips! That's the only way I can learn, and make my models even better!
Thanks for all the feedback and tips!
Dave
@ Brad: Yes, it's build out of the box. The machine gun is not fixed, so I can move it anyway I want. I know that I could wheater it some more, with dust, rain stripes, oil, etc. But I'm afraid to ruin my model, since I don't yet master those techniques... I applies a wash of burnt sienna, and a pin wash of black, mixed with raw umber. That turned out rather good, I think. This model was the first one I tried some new techniques out, and I was surprised that it turned out rather good. But with anything, the fear of ruining what you already done is great. But I will work some more on it.
@ Jim, I absolutely don't take it as criticism! I love all your remarks and tips! That's the only way I can learn, and make my models even better!
Thanks for all the feedback and tips!
Dave
tjkelly
Maryland, United States
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Posted: Thursday, February 28, 2008 - 08:23 AM UTC
Dave -
Nice looking Sherman! Like your white-washed finish, you're one up on me! Have yet to try it, you've made it look easy, thanks for sharing your pictures.
Cheers!
Tim
Nice looking Sherman! Like your white-washed finish, you're one up on me! Have yet to try it, you've made it look easy, thanks for sharing your pictures.
Cheers!
Tim
petros
Thessaloniki, Greece / Ελλάδα
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Posted: Thursday, February 28, 2008 - 08:57 AM UTC
I like the artistic style painting a lot
cheers
petros
cheers
petros
patton76
West-Vlaaderen, Belgium
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Posted: Thursday, February 28, 2008 - 01:38 PM UTC
@ Tim, I'm sure you can do a greater job then I did! But i'm glad you liked it. if I read all comments here, and on the dutch forum, the Sherman will look awesome when I wheater it some more, the only thing is, how do I do that?
@ Petros, I'm glad you like it, although, I don't really understand what you mean by the artistic finish
@ Petros, I'm glad you like it, although, I don't really understand what you mean by the artistic finish