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Russia vs Georgia War= new kits????
wanagun
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Posted: Friday, August 22, 2008 - 02:50 AM UTC
With all the new interest in moderan Russian/ Soviet armor that this war, or what ever it is being called, has created do you think we will see new kits? I know that OIF and the first GUlf war spawned alot of M1, and some new T-72 and conversion sets. I was just wondering if you guys that the kit makers would bring out any revised kits of the BMP or other items.
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Posted: Friday, August 22, 2008 - 03:21 AM UTC
Besides the future release of BMP-3 from Trumpeter, to go along the SKIF version, i don't see anyone coming with new stuff (praying for a T-90..).
Also they're planning a T-62.

In the news we see plenty of BMP-2's, some BMD's(which version ??), some T-72's and T-62's.
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Posted: Friday, August 22, 2008 - 03:26 AM UTC
It did get me to buy the T-72B w/EDZ from Revell. I've heard it's not the best but it'll look the part. A BMD-2 would be next.

They're just vehicles you don't see every day that do spark an interest. I doubt anything new will come out because of this.
Tommy76
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Posted: Friday, August 22, 2008 - 05:32 PM UTC

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In the news we see plenty of BMP-2's, some BMD's(which version ??)



There have been BMP-1's & 2's, and also BMD-1's and 2's from what I've seen. However, confirmation of specific letter-type-designations/variants/etc. would require someone more informed than I.


Tommy.
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Posted: Friday, August 22, 2008 - 10:04 PM UTC

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In the news we see plenty of BMP-2's, some BMD's(which version ??)



There have been BMP-1's & 2's, and also BMD-1's and 2's from what I've seen. However, confirmation of specific letter-type-designations/variants/etc. would require someone more informed than I.


Tommy.


As seen on TV and photographs. All in 1/35 scale:
ATGMs( Konkurs, Metis)-none
BM-21 Grad on Tatra 8X8 truck - dunno, probably none
BM-21 Grad on Ural truck- ICM/Alanger (horrid molding quality)
BMP-1/2- DML resurrected in Revell/Zvezda/Hobbycraft boxes. Below average kit by today standards
BMD-1/2- Zvezda/Eastern Express. Zvezda offering is a winner here
BTR-60 based comms. vehicle- Panzershop
BTR-70/80- DML and its re-packs by Revell (BTR-70 only), Zvezda (both kits). Just like their BMPs
Cobra light armored vehicle-none
Dana SPH- Panzershop
D-30 towed Howitzer- Skif
HUMVEE-Tamiya
Smertch MLRS-none
T-55-Tamiya
T-62-Tamiya, but this kit is really old and appears to be in 32nd scale rather than 35th.
T-72AV- none
T-72B- DML/ Revell/Zvezda (simply terrible kit), Tamiya+Miniarm builds into an accurate model
T-72B(M)- Tamiya+Miniarm
Tochka-U S2S missile complex-sadly none
Tunguska SPAD vehicle- Jadar full resin kit (not worth its price IMHO)
Uragan MLRS-none
Various Military cargo trucks and civilian vehicles- one big gap
Vasilek Automatic Mortar-none

Air Assets- better ask Aeroscale pros

If you are looking for easy oob build, your only options are either Tamiya T-55 or their HUMVEE
Tommy76
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Posted: Saturday, August 23, 2008 - 03:27 PM UTC

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Various Military cargo trucks and civilian vehicles- one big gap



Apart from the URAL and GAZ truck kits, I did see a Trumpeter ZIL-157 truck kit (the Abkhazians appear to have had a few of these chugging around), but there's (I think) a few more models (ZIL-131?) in between these old trucks and the newer URAL models which I can't recall seeing anything for... There's also some Military Wheels kits for those little UAZ jeeps that seem to go beetling around everywhere in both militia and civilian use - although only the older makes. I think there's also a few modern U.S. army truck (M923/M925?) model kits which might be useful for depiction of Georgian forces.

One thing I notice with the majority of the truck/jeep kits that I found for use depicting the Russian/Ossetian/Abkhazian side is that they're ridiculously expensive...


Tommy.
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Posted: Saturday, August 23, 2008 - 04:55 PM UTC
Also Skif made an MT-LB and MT-LB with twin 23mm:

Good basic kit, with Fruil track and Eduard pe, should look pretty good.

Jim
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Posted: Saturday, August 23, 2008 - 05:00 PM UTC

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Also Skif made an MT-LB and MT-LB with twin 23mm:

Good basic kit, with Fruil track and Eduard pe, should look pretty good.

Jim



Actually - that reminds me: is there a stand-alone kit for the dual-23mm gun (ZU-23/2?)? I've only seen it so far supplied as part of truck/AFV kits...


Tommy.
PantherF
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Posted: Sunday, August 24, 2008 - 01:44 AM UTC
Everyone calls the DML/ Revell/Zvezda T-72B terrible or junk, exactly what is the problem with it?

Is it that it's just not accurate? Thanks for any anwers guys.
october
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Posted: Monday, August 25, 2008 - 09:46 AM UTC
Although this may be slightly off topic,but still related to the absence of good quality modern Soviet/Russian kits,what I can't understand is how Trumpeter bring out the PT-76 rather than the T-62.
I would have thought the T-62 would have shifted more units,spawned lots of magazine and internet coverage and been greeted with the same enthusiasm as Tamiya's T-55...provided it was accurate of course!
Although having said that the PT-76 may be a more popular topic in markets other than Western Europe and the USA...
In the mean time I'll just have to hold out for that T-62

Cheers October
Yoni_Lev
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Posted: Monday, August 25, 2008 - 01:45 PM UTC

I'd have to agree. But I think Trumpy is teasing us with that T-62.

-YL
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