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Tamiya Stug IV ( no airbrush)
andy007
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Posted: Tuesday, May 20, 2003 - 09:40 PM UTC
Hi all here are a couple of photos of my first german armour peice i used humbrol paints and the camo is all hand done. http://groups.msn.com/armorama/sheepboysandy007models.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=8958
http://groups.msn.com/armorama/sheepboysandy007models.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=8959
http://groups.msn.com/armorama/sheepboysandy007models.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=8960
the last one might be a bit bright
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Posted: Tuesday, May 20, 2003 - 09:45 PM UTC
Andy looking good for hand painted. I had pointed out a couple lil improvement in the chat, so I am sure once you get an airbrush, your model will look awesome.

Very good for hand paint...
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Posted: Tuesday, May 20, 2003 - 10:43 PM UTC
good hand painting Andrew, if the photos were better we could see your art more detailed.
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Posted: Tuesday, May 20, 2003 - 10:46 PM UTC
Good model so far!
I know how difficult is to hand paint a model, and also to make that camo scheme, very well done!
Keep up the good work!
Cheers


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Posted: Tuesday, May 20, 2003 - 10:56 PM UTC
looks good Andy, rather nice paint job. What technique did you use for the Camo? keep it up stug
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Posted: Tuesday, May 20, 2003 - 11:30 PM UTC
Looking good Andy. I used q tips to paint german camo without an airbrush. Dip just the tip into the paint, blot most of the paint out and then blot on your pattern. If you overlap the circles, you can get a nice feathered edge. It takes a little bit of practice to make sure the model doesn't look like it has dots all over it but it works. Keep up the good work.
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Posted: Wednesday, May 21, 2003 - 12:22 AM UTC
For a brush paint job that is great. I think it came out very well. Couple of ideas, It might look a bit uniform if you add some color around the mantlet near the hull right around the base of the barrel and on the shaped mantlets up front
Plasticbattle
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Posted: Wednesday, May 21, 2003 - 01:13 AM UTC
I know how hard it is to do camo, with or without an airbrush.
But you camo is well done as not every camo was made to any specification or best materials used.
I would suggest you make a few steps before hand that might improve the overall appearance, like a little wash and dry brushing to better define the shapes and contours of the vehicle. Then with the camo added, a filter using the base colour and 95% thinner and paint all over lightly to tie it all together. Different filters can be used in different areas to achieve nice affects. The wash and drybrush would also blend in the items with no camo, like stowage, inside of doors and machine gun guard.
Its actually still not too late to add a light wash over the whole thing and when dry, drybrush with base colour and then lighten a little with white to the upper areas
before I got my airbrush i used spray tins and masking to achieve a camo. The main problem with this, the lack of suitable colours.
Good luck
mrs_selrach
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Posted: Wednesday, May 21, 2003 - 04:46 AM UTC
The handpainting is pretty cool !! I love the detailing. You can see the hard work you put into it. Way to go !!!


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Posted: Wednesday, May 21, 2003 - 04:59 AM UTC
Hey Andy
Looking good Well put together , looks like a nice clean build.
I do all my painting by hand myself, I feel as if I have a bit more control. I do plan on picking up an inexpensive air brush and practicing and playing around it.
Weathering and drybrushing can add a lot to a model. Just takes a bit of practice :-)

For your first german tank, I think it looks pretty good
Congrats!
andy007
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Posted: Wednesday, May 21, 2003 - 04:30 PM UTC
Thanks guys for all the advice
i just have a couple of questions how thin should my wash be?
and with the dry brushing what colour should it be?
and steve I used some old sponges for the camo.
didiumus
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Posted: Wednesday, May 21, 2003 - 04:45 PM UTC
Beautiful work, particularly for hand paint work...You are to be commended...

Scott

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Posted: Wednesday, May 21, 2003 - 06:58 PM UTC
Usually a wash is about 5 - 10% paint and the rest thinner. The wash should look more like dirty thinner than thin paint if you know what I mean. You can wash the whole model and using a dry clean brush soak up the wash on big flat areas or just use pin washes around small details like rivets etc. I prefer the second especially on top but an allover wash goes well on the lower hull and wheels to darken the shade.
the drybrush is usually the base colour lightened a little .......... 75% base and 25% white, and then drybrush over most of the detail. then 50% base and 50% white for the peaks of the upper detail. this a rough guide and through time as you try it a few times you´ll see what suits and where...... dry brush very lightly on areas where camo colours are.
this is a very brief explanation....... if you do a search here you will find a lot more info on the subject.
andy007
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Posted: Wednesday, May 21, 2003 - 08:28 PM UTC
thanks for the help plastic battle i'll do that later this week
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Posted: Friday, October 24, 2003 - 04:06 PM UTC
Did you spray primer on your tank with a can or just painted it w/ no undercoat?
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Posted: Friday, October 24, 2003 - 04:44 PM UTC
Overall paint and construction looks very good.
Two suggestions:
Paint the spare tracks on the glacis plates a dark/rusty metal color, such as Model Master Burnt Iron metalizer. You can do this with a brush, depite the warnings on the bottle.
Go to an artists's store and get a stick of black chalk, not oil, pastel. Rub your thumb and forefinger on ot and transfer this to the end of the main gun. It'll look more used.
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Posted: Friday, October 24, 2003 - 05:37 PM UTC
Very nice Andy!

It just adds to the realism of the tank, the hand painted camo. I mean in the field who would sit around and waste time with an airbrush painting nice and neat camo?

Great work!

~Chip
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Posted: Friday, October 24, 2003 - 05:37 PM UTC
Very nice Andy!

It just adds to the realism of the tank, the hand painted camo. I mean in the field who would sit around and waste time with an airbrush painting nice and neat camo?

Great work!

~Chip
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Posted: Saturday, October 25, 2003 - 12:34 AM UTC
HI. Very nice camo job. I do not use an air brush either and have not tried the 3-tone camo on German vehicles simply because of having yet figured out how to do it with a brush. But you have given me an idea or two here on your model. I will try this on some scrap to see how to get some control over it first and give it a 'shot'. It's looks really 'to scale'. Thanks a whole lot.

Take care, sgirty
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Posted: Saturday, October 25, 2003 - 11:54 AM UTC
LOOKS GREAT,
the germans did use mops and rags and other stuff they could get there hands on to do camo. u did a nice job
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