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Canadian Fireflys and winter camo?.....
Joker
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Posted: Friday, October 17, 2008 - 06:06 AM UTC
Hi All,

Sherman newbie here, thanks for your patience.

I've seen pics of British Fireflys with a coat of winter white, did Canadians do this as well?

Thanks in advance

Pete
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Posted: Friday, October 17, 2008 - 02:40 PM UTC
I am not sure Pete,

I can't recall seeing any images of white washed Canadian Fireflys.

The Fireflys came into service in October 1944 in Italy....the temperatures would have been pretty mild and not too much snow that would have stayed on the ground.

The Fireflys would have been still in pretty sparse numbers in the tank Troops through the winter of 1944 in NW Europe......when units moved from Italy to Holland at the beginning of 1945 the new Fireflys introduced into the tank Troops were only in green.

It might have been done.....but it would have probably have been pretty rare.
Joker
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Posted: Saturday, October 18, 2008 - 02:25 AM UTC
JB,

Thanks, I guess I'll make a Brit Firefly, no biggie.

Thanks

P
stoney
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Posted: Saturday, October 18, 2008 - 03:49 AM UTC
I'd have to say probably to this, it would seem strange not to. The canucks had fireflys from D-day on in NWE so they would have followed the same patterns as the Brits, and since just about every piece of armour in europe was painted or smeared or wrapped in some form of white cammo it would only stand to reason that the these would as well.
LeoCmdr
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Posted: Saturday, October 18, 2008 - 04:57 AM UTC
Camouflage SOPs...standard operating procedures.....are done at a unit level......the use of camouflage would be dictated by the type of terrain encountered.

The Canadians were up in Holland during the winter of 1944....not great accumulations of snow that stay for months at a time like in other parts of Europe.

I have seen photos of Canadian armour in Holland in the winter in 1944.....no white sheets, or paint applied.....some light natural coverings of snow.....and lots of mud.

It would also depend on what was available....white wash paint would have been in limited quantities.....if the supply chain focused on the British troops.....it would go there first.

Again....not to say it wasn't done.....but there doesn't seem to be proof it was done on a larger scale.......and if it was done.....there doesn't seem to be remnants of the white wash present in early 1945........they didn't repaint the tanks.
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