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Jagdpanzer IV L48
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Posted: Saturday, December 06, 2008 - 10:21 AM UTC
.The kit is an old Revell kit that I started about 7 years ago.I started working on the interior and that was about it. When I dug the kit out of the closet a couple of weeks ago, I discovered that the hul sides were bowing inwards,so much for the interior work. I did some bracing to the inside of the hull and closed it.
As you can see this will be a KOed tank. I'll be using this model to brush up on some old painting technics and maybe try some new ones.I haven't decided on whether it will be a fresh wreck or a vehicle that was sitting around for 60 odd years.






I'll post new pics when I start with the painting.

Rob






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Posted: Saturday, December 06, 2008 - 11:23 AM UTC
Off to a good start Rob. Can't wait to see this one painted up. What kind of environment are you going to use for the base?

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Posted: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 - 09:36 AM UTC
Well guys, i've been playing around with new and old technics in painting an old or recent tank wreck. I've started with the painting and am letting it dry a bit longer but here is were i'm at right now. The first 3 pics are tests done on an old kit part.




After priming the model I applied a coat of enamel paint, a dark chocolate color,then applied lots of hair spray followed by a coat of primer, another coat of hs ,and finally pz yellow. I'm working on removing the paints at the moment.





I have to get back to the model now. When my camara battery has charged, i'll post new pics of the progress. Stay tuned..

Rob





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Posted: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 - 09:57 AM UTC
What's the hair spray do for you? I'm not that experienced at land vehicle modelling so forgive my confusion
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Posted: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 - 03:03 PM UTC

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What's the hair spray do for you? I'm not that experienced at land vehicle modelling so forgive my confusion



makes it easy to create the chipped paint look as he is doing

look up the hair spray method on this site
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Posted: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 - 10:08 PM UTC
what size round do you suppose hit it? it looks a bit small to have penetrated IMO.
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Posted: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 - 05:12 AM UTC

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what size round do you suppose hit it? it looks a bit small to have penetrated IMO.


Looks like a 75 mm, 76 mm, or three-inch penetration. In scale, the hole would be a hair under 2.2 mm in diameter. Any of those weapons could punch through the side armor of a Jagdpanzer IV.
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Posted: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 - 06:51 AM UTC
Hey guys,
A bit but here's some shots of the Jagdpanzer IV/70 (A) at the Saumur museum with some actual shell damage:

http://www.jagdtiger.de/index2.htm?http://www.jagdtiger.de/GermanVeh/JpzIV70A-01.htm

I can't remember where but I've seen a photo somewhere of this vehicle taken just after it was knocked out by French or American troops.
I don't know if it's a bit was bit of artistic license but you could see that there was a 75-76mm round sticking out of the front plate.
It appears to still be there.
Cheers

jjumbo
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Posted: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 - 07:02 AM UTC

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Hey guys,
A bit but here's some shots of the Jagdpanzer IV/70 (A) at the Saumur museum with some actual shell damage:

http://www.jagdtiger.de/index2.htm?http://www.jagdtiger.de/GermanVeh/JpzIV70A-01.htm

I can't remember where but I've seen a photo somewhere of this vehicle taken just after it was knocked out by French or American troops.
I don't know if it's a bit was bit of artistic license but you could see that there was a 75-76mm round sticking out of the front plate.
It appears to still be there.
Cheers

jjumbo



And here's the site with that photo:

http://uwemilitaria.org/2-Track/Jpanzer4ersatz/24.html

Just run your cursor over the wartime photo and a picture of the same vehicle at the Saumur will pop up.
Other than the lack of markings, it's the same beast.

Cheers

jjumbo
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Posted: Thursday, December 11, 2008 - 05:33 PM UTC
Thanks all,

Sorry I could not respond to your questions and comments, I use my wife's pc in her office and can only do that when she's not working on it.
The 2 entry holes on the side of the model are 2 + mm in diameter, so it could have been a 75 or 76 mm round.
We here is what i've gotten done so far. The model will be placed in some ground work on a base before I can continue. I took the pics under normal lights so it's a bit redish orange in the pics, I will take new pics under the correct lighting and post them when I can.





All comments are welcome and I wil answer questions when I can get on line so please
don't get offended if I take a day or two,thanks.

Rob




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Posted: Saturday, December 13, 2008 - 02:39 AM UTC
Thats looking sweet Rob. I can't wait to see it finished.
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Posted: Saturday, December 13, 2008 - 04:37 AM UTC
Great wok Rob its lookin greak dude! Keep it up!

Martyn
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Posted: Saturday, December 13, 2008 - 09:15 PM UTC
very very nice. Thanks for the answer on the shell hole, I will keep that in mind for any future models I MIGHT attempt that are knocked out. Great job!!!!
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Posted: Saturday, December 13, 2008 - 10:27 PM UTC
Really nice work! I'm gonna use that technique!

Lars
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Posted: Sunday, December 14, 2008 - 08:25 AM UTC
I finally got around to finishing this one off. I placed the model on a picture frame base with simple ground work. The L48 was built and painted to represent a vehicle that has been sitting around in an Eastern block country for over 60 years.
In case your wondering,yes thats real rust on this tank along with a little bit of pigments. I've been using real rust powder on my tank wrecks for over 6 years and think nothing looks more realistic than the real thing.












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I will be working on a wreck of a pzIV ausf E in North Afrika when i am done with the pzIII ausf N. There will be an interior in that tank.

Semper Fi
Rob









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Posted: Sunday, December 14, 2008 - 08:31 AM UTC
Incredible work mate.

Just so realistic and the basic scenery really finishes it off.

Outstanding.

Mick
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Posted: Sunday, December 14, 2008 - 11:35 AM UTC
Terrific work, the faded paint job looks really well. Good work
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Posted: Sunday, December 14, 2008 - 12:13 PM UTC
Great job Rob.

Very nice job of the rust / flaking paint - very realistic.


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Posted: Sunday, December 14, 2008 - 01:19 PM UTC
Rob,

If you put it against a suitable back drop and shot it in black and white, you would swear it was a war casualty. Very well done!!

Darryl
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Posted: Sunday, December 14, 2008 - 01:25 PM UTC
Wow just looking at that makes me feel like I need a tetanus shot!

Seriously though it looks amazing. I love the rust effects and how you have it sunken into the ground work.

Cheers
Jeff
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Posted: Tuesday, December 16, 2008 - 02:43 PM UTC
Sweet finishing job Rob. Very well done and nicely presented. Hope you see some well deserved awards for that one!
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Posted: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 - 09:34 AM UTC
Really nice Rob, its looks great!

Martyn
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Posted: Saturday, December 20, 2008 - 04:32 AM UTC
lovely job great idea
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