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Posted: Sunday, January 11, 2009 - 07:11 AM UTC
ok just wondered if anyone had any tips for improving the weathering. better chipped paint effects, dust, etc. i'm gonna give the whole model a treatment with MIG pigments when i get them, but for now anything else.

http://gallery.kitmaker.net/showphoto.php/photo/299177/ppuser/36372


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Posted: Sunday, January 11, 2009 - 07:17 AM UTC
i could also use some feedback on using the image bb's. no luck so far.
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Posted: Sunday, January 11, 2009 - 07:20 AM UTC


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Posted: Sunday, January 11, 2009 - 07:22 AM UTC
Hi Luke i'm no expert when it comes to weathering in fact i'm quite the novice at it but from the looks of your tiger you're doing a top notch job
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Posted: Sunday, January 11, 2009 - 09:53 AM UTC
Luke this is you picture I believe


This link should help you attach your picture from now on.
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Posted: Sunday, January 11, 2009 - 12:28 PM UTC
Hi, it's looking really good. I had to take a second look as I thought pigments were already on it. What type of paints have you used so far?

You can look at the BOTTOM of this recent thread for a few Tiger tips:

https://armorama.kitmaker.net/forums/131453&page=1
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Posted: Sunday, January 11, 2009 - 12:34 PM UTC


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Posted: Monday, January 12, 2009 - 05:48 AM UTC
thanks that was really helpful, and nice tiger Greg, is that yours? so far i have only used tamiya acrylics airbrushed and drybrushed, with a few washes of water and tamiya acrylics. i'm especially pleased with the tow cables and spare track links on the turret. i sprayed them tamiya flat black and then washed them with rust colours (i think it was some kind of cheap acrylic burnt sienna with a bit of red brown in it). then i got some graphite on the tip of my finger and rubbed it to simulate where the rust has rubbed off. this seems to work very well on cables, where only the upper edges get shiny and the recesses stay very rust coloured. all the oil and rust stains and streaks were done with more concentrated washes.
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Posted: Monday, January 12, 2009 - 06:36 AM UTC
heres some more pictures. i apologise for the poor quality, my camera is quite hard to get to work in special light conditions, so the paint appears a bit more light grey than it really is. i really like the models at the bottom of the page in that link. but i'm unsure about how to weather zimmerit with pigments. can you? especially zimmerit like mine, which is far to pronounced. trust me, never try to use pollyfilla and plasticizer to make the putty. just buy it.









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Posted: Monday, January 12, 2009 - 07:13 AM UTC
and here's the figures for my diorama with this tiger. it's gonna be some kind of desert scene.

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Posted: Monday, January 12, 2009 - 06:05 PM UTC
Not my Tigers - just inspirational topics from Track48.com gallery. I have some stuff in the gallery there too. I have one Tiger in progress with a su-122 dio (see my photo button), but it's on hold now until I finish a "Marder Mania" and "On the Eastern Front" Campaigns.

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Posted: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 - 05:21 AM UTC
next is the tracks. any tips on plastic single link ones, i've never worked with them before. how long do i have 'til the glue dries and how many esctions should i split them into.
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Posted: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 - 05:47 AM UTC
Hi Luke
Well done on the Tiger finish it looks good.


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and here's the figures for my diorama with this tiger. it's gonna be some kind of desert scene.




No, not really would be my advice. That version of the Tiger never made it to North Africa, and the figures you show I'd say the same comment. You need to be looking for a scene depicting a location in the mid to later part of the war.

That's the Mid Version Tiger as its commonly known, still has rubber edged road wheels but a different commanders cupola is the most obvious ways of telling the three main variants apart, but there are other minor differences and overlaps due to supply etc.

Plenty to go for, such as France or Russia, in choosing a scene but no desert diorama if you want to be even mildly accurate.

Cheers

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Posted: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 - 03:53 AM UTC
Hi Luke, the weathering looks great so far , not over done. I f you havent done so already, I would pay some attention to the lower sections and especially the roadwheels. In your last photos they seemed a little too pristine. Maybe try some dust, dirt and around the hubs maybe some representation of leaking oil or bearing grease. You may want to do some chipping also. Btw, what types of paint did you use? Have you done any washes or filters or just the localized ones I see? Looks good, keep up the good work, Jim Rosado
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Posted: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 - 05:16 AM UTC
thanks for the advice. most of the weathering was done before i attached the wheels, hence how clean they are. don't worry, once my MIG pigments arrive i'll be able to give the lower section a good dusting, but so far they have only had a wash of tamiya flat black. with regards to paints used, i mentioned them earlier, although i forgot to mention that i also airbrushed the camo pattern (barely visible), with tamiya red brown and sprayed a light coat of thinned dark yellow and grey from above to simulate fading. i also used a thin dark wash of black and brown (not sure if i used oils or acrylics), and a darker, less thinned wash on the back section of the tank. apart from that, it's only localised washes and oil spills. i d'dn't use any spot filters on this because the airbrush gave an unusually heavily pebbled surface. i like the way it looks, but i was worried that paint would stay in the tiny recesses and be too obvious. and i'll have a think about an alternative diorama location, but i'm not worried about accuracy too much so it's likely that it'll still be the same.
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Posted: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 - 04:05 PM UTC
Hi Luke, I am going to let you in on a little secret, have you ever heard of ceramic tile grout? I think mig has. [ wink] go to a building or tile supply house in your area and buy unsanded tile grout. It comes in all of the earth tones plus greens, blues, you name it they have the color. Buy a box. Now you have a box of " pigments" , not migments, ya gettin me. You will have a life time supply plus for all your armor buddies as well. That same box will cost approximately the same as the migments. mix with distilled water,[ not tap water!] to a peanut butter to yogurt consistency, or even thinner consistency if you like, use exactly like migs stuff, but without the cost sssshhhhh..... dont tell mig! Jim r.
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Posted: Thursday, January 15, 2009 - 05:26 AM UTC
lol well i've already got them now, but i'll experiment with that sort of thing anyway. i was thinking of using soot from my chimney as, well soot, and maybe some powdered fired clay for other colours.
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Posted: Thursday, January 15, 2009 - 08:15 AM UTC
well i've been thinking about the diorama and about what Greg said, and i reckon my basic idea could be changed fairly easily to another location. can anyone think of anywhere sunny, dry and dusty where mid production tigers were actively used.
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Posted: Sunday, January 18, 2009 - 04:59 AM UTC
ok the models pretty much finished now, save for touches that can only be added once it's in place. i'll be working on the diorama from now on. hers are a few quick pics, which don't really do the weathering justice. i'll endevour to upload some more when i can find the time.



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Posted: Monday, January 19, 2009 - 03:21 AM UTC
good job so far Luke, keep at it!

Cheers -
Tim
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Posted: Thursday, January 22, 2009 - 10:17 AM UTC
cool yeah thanks i like to think so
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