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Posted: Saturday, August 22, 2009 - 04:37 PM UTC
answer some quries

im also a M113AS4 commander & M113A1
i also served on the leopard as1 during its last 2 years service

also Andy Holland on this forum is a Abrams gunner in my squadron he can help as well .

heres a link to some of my 1-1 scale stuff
http://www.g503.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=82&t=146151
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Posted: Saturday, August 22, 2009 - 06:33 PM UTC
Brilliant work Carmen !

This projext is top notch....

I'll be interested to see how you do the Alpine figures. Do you know that Mouse House now do Decals for the Disruptive Camo Uniforms ? That might be one to try !!

Brenton,

I thought my project on restoring an Red XB coupe was huge !

........your Centurion will be a ripper !!

Cheers

Paul
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Posted: Saturday, August 22, 2009 - 11:53 PM UTC

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Brilliant work Carmen !

This projext is top notch....

I'll be interested to see how you do the Alpine figures. Do you know that Mouse House now do Decals for the Disruptive Camo Uniforms ? That might be one to try !!

Brenton,

I thought my project on restoring an Red XB coupe was huge !

........your Centurion will be a ripper !!

Cheers

Paul



Sure your name isnt really Eric? AS Eric Bana? I know he has a red XB coupe to fix! (After watching Love the Beast!!)
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Posted: Sunday, August 23, 2009 - 11:54 AM UTC
Ok boys and girls... After a few weeks off, I've got some more progress shots to show. I've got the side skirt armour on and the pigment weathering finished.

To simulate the dark scratches over the light colored tank I performed the following:

With the pin wash several weeks behind me I was stumbling thru Micheal's Art and craft store and come accross Pigment Crayons (not pencil crayons!). I thought these would be great to apply small scraches given the sharp point of the crayon, plus I can play around with them like I typically do with regular pigment powders.

Plain side skirt armour


Applied random scratches with a light brown pigment crayon... the color is way darker in the photo then what it is in real life. For longer scratches I used a ruler.


I then used the same technique I used for the pin wash earlier int he build by taking a clean brush damp with thinner and brushed it all in the same direction... this time in the horizontal direction along the path of the scratch.


I was reading yesterday a thread about sealing pigments in by a matt varnish... I wanted to seal these in because I was going to apply the red clay colored pigments over top then brush then down at 90 deg to the scratches. Without trying to streak the scratches down I did a light coat of matt varnish over the scratches to seal them... I of course tested this on the lower hull as most people have had bad results doing this.... as per the thread I read.

With the scratches sealed the red clay colored pigments were applied to simulate the Cultana training area. I'm very happy with the results.


Here's the 98% completed model.


Just have stowage, the base (which is almost done) and the figures to go.... I can see the light at the end of the tunnel. Enjoy!!
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Posted: Sunday, August 23, 2009 - 12:03 PM UTC
Ok... I've got half of my stowage built and painted but one major component I need help with colors...Thanks in advance to Brenton for answering some of my questions!!

The barracuda netting that is typically stowed in the bottom of the turret basket... what color is it? I've been reviewing pictures and with the layers of dust I can't make out the original colors? Is it two tone tan-brown like the turret umbrella? or green-brown disruptive camo like the cam netting on the ASLAVs? Any photo reference would be a great help. I'm not talking about the MCS incase people are confused.

What color is the umbrella bag? light brown? Photos?

Thanks in advance!!
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Posted: Sunday, August 23, 2009 - 12:50 PM UTC
Your Abrams is looking real good, Carmen. I really like the way the red pigments look.
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Posted: Sunday, August 23, 2009 - 12:53 PM UTC
Carmen,

The nets are two sided: tan/sand on one side and brown/green on the other.

HTH - the tank is looking great. Don't forget the rubbing points on the lower hull where the HET rubber stops brace the tank when it is being transported. It is quite a distinctive feature of AS Abrams.

Greg
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Posted: Sunday, August 23, 2009 - 01:25 PM UTC
Thanks Greg! That's exactly what I was looking for... I knew I saw green-brown ones, and brown-tan ones.... double sided makes sense now.

Also.... you're too good Greg... the black rubbings on the front I'm tackling tomorrow night... nothing gets past you mate!! Cheers!
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Posted: Sunday, August 23, 2009 - 05:32 PM UTC
To be honest I was a little worried when I first saw the dark scratches. But once you went over them with some thinner. Suddenly they looked the part. Excellent job Carmen. Did you see if these pigment crayons come in different colours? I wouldn't mind giving this a try.

One other question for you. Do you have Barracuda cam nets? I know Echelon is getting closer to releasing the latest version into production.

This thing just rocks man!

Matt
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Posted: Sunday, August 23, 2009 - 07:02 PM UTC
Good work Carmen.

What paint and color did you use for your base coat please ?

Cheers

Paul
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Posted: Monday, August 24, 2009 - 02:44 AM UTC
Matt - I do have some baracuda netting from Echelon.... I brokered a deal with a close friend... I need to replace his when they release them. I should have it painted and installed on the tank within the week.

As for the pigment crayons - yes they do come in a variety of colors just like pencil crayons. They also go by the name Pastel crayons. They look exactly like pencil crayons but have the pigment/pastel chalks as the "lead" instead. I found them in the same section as Pencil crayons, graphite pencils and pastel chalks at Michael's Art and Craft store. Big sets are expensive, but I got a generic set of 12 for I think less then $20. Don't worry... I had the same reservations about this so I tested it on the bottom hull first and it worked just as I thought. I was more worried about the matt varnish over the top to seal it...

Paul - As for paint I am a strong believer that you can mix paints to n'th degree to acquire the exact shade of paint, but after dust and the elements any color changes in real life, so I typically tried and get my base color within a shade or two of the actual color ( just a tad lighter to darken up after I weather the model a bit) and go from there.

I use Vallejo Model Air paints so I used Sand Yellow as the base then used Sand to post shade. The finished results are lighter on purpose. My finished tank I wanted a bit darker which turned out well after the washes and pigments. If you look back in my build log you can see my model just after paint. It's alot lighter then the recent photos.

I hope this helps!!
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Posted: Sunday, August 30, 2009 - 10:09 AM UTC
Got a bit more done today...

The rubber marks from the Heavy Transporter.

I cut a piece of eraser and dipped it in thinner, dabbed it dry then stamped it in black pigment powder then stamped it on a towel to remove most of the pigment. I tested it on the bottom of the hull to ensure it was the consistency I wanted before stamping the front of the hull. You can see that after a few stamps the black pigment slowly decreased in intensity. I stamped it 4 times to reduce the pigment I got it where I wanted it. You can also see where I tested my 1/35 printing and my scratches technique for the side skirts. Once applied I used a clean side of the eraser and stamped over it to remove any excess incase there was any.







Here's some of the ration packs I picked up from Mouse House that I'll be using to help fill out the stowage. This is my first time using cardboard boxes as stowage so it was definately a learning for me.



The Jerry cans are painted, just need to weather them. The barracuda net is painted (good God what a debacle!), just need to finish a few straps before I call this model done. Next pictures will be my base. Cheers!
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Posted: Sunday, August 30, 2009 - 12:13 PM UTC
Carmen this one is looking very nice. Keep it coming. Very well done. Very well done.
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Posted: Sunday, August 30, 2009 - 12:52 PM UTC
Carmen,

A truly EXCELLENT Abrams from down under! I just love the transporter "bumper" marks!!

Keep it coming!
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Posted: Monday, August 31, 2009 - 07:39 AM UTC
Cool Abrams Carmen Some good tips here. I plan to do two Abrams soon I have a Dragon kit and a Tamiya kit. I have the TUSK bits from Perfect Scale as well.
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Posted: Monday, August 31, 2009 - 10:58 AM UTC
The good stuff just keeps coming Carmen. Cool idea on how to apply the bump stop marks.

A few of my tank hull bottoms look similar to yours. It's like a record of how the model went together. I can't wait to see the base. Is there gonna be a 1/35 scale kangaroo?

Matt
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Posted: Monday, August 31, 2009 - 12:07 PM UTC
You show me a 1/35 scale kangaroo and I'll put in just for you.... I think that'd look awesome!

I don't think anyone makes a 1/35 scale kangaroo??
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Posted: Monday, August 31, 2009 - 12:59 PM UTC

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I don't think anyone makes a 1/35 scale kangaroo??


Not a bad idea. But roo's usually leave whatever area anyone operates in. Quickly. But a Skippy in full flight would be cool!!
Also a set of Australian animals as seen in SWBTA such as Kangawalafoxes, Hoop Snakes and the very elusive Drop Bear.

Great work on the Abrams too by the way.

Cheers Jason

PS, I can not wait to see how you camo net/umbrella has worked out.
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Posted: Monday, August 31, 2009 - 01:33 PM UTC
LOL!!!! That is way too funny!! .... Drop bear... that's awesome! You have me in stitches!

Jason, you should sculpt a set of these animals... you're international sales would sky rocket! I completely forgot about those animals, the Aussies told me about them when I was in New Zealand... I was pretty close to putting vegemite behind my ears.

I had a hard time painting the cam netting, so I'm going to attempt a second go at it this weekend. It's going to be bunched up in the turret basket so you won't be able to see most of it after I'm finished unfortunately. Pictures of the base should be coming tomorrow or later this week... stay tuned or the Kangawalafox will get you!
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Posted: Tuesday, September 01, 2009 - 03:03 PM UTC
Alright Lads!!! Ready for some pictures????

Ok, so I'm almost done, but I couldn't resist posting these pictures:

I like to display my models on a simple base for three reasons - sense of scale, sense of setting, and it keeps peoples hands off it during transportation.

I purchase my plaque bases at a local trophy store. I also purchase trophy bases for smaller models to mix it up a bit. I also get her to create a plate with whatever information I want to show. Let's start with some inspiration - Operation Southern Reach - Cultana training area 2007. Enjoy!






I painted the ground work burnt umber, them mud brown then straight orange to give it some contrast. I played around with the Aves Master Mache by adding sand and wood glue to vary the consistency. Some areas look more like dried mud whereas other spots look like sand.

Now onto the fun part!! I was surfing youtube and came across a bunch of videos where thee model railroad guys had built their own Grassmaster. It's a static grass applicator.

http://www.ztrains.com/pages/tech/grassinator/grassinator.html

Basically what it does is make your static grass stick straight up like real grass. I didn't want to put down tuffs or grass mats and this application method was my solution. This device sells for ~$280 USD on the Scenic Express website, but I build mine in less then 2 hours for under $40 CDN. Here's a picture of mine:


The link provided above gives the parts list as well as a detailed construction process. I also used Woodland Scenics Fine Leaf Foliage for the small shrubs. The static grass was winter tan which was a light gray with a small amount of brown in it. Here's my final base:



Here's the plate I got made up for this project several months ago.

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Posted: Tuesday, September 01, 2009 - 03:19 PM UTC
Almost there... I'll show some better pictures of my stowage soon. I need to do some more touch ups on them. The ration boxes are done, whch I've posted, the jerry cans are painted and weathered but I need to put on some straps. The camo net is tucked under the umbrella bag which I think I'm going to re-do. the umbrella bag is done but I might do a pin wash on it. I need to touch up the flags, the red one isn't to my liking and I still need to paint the green one I'm simply going to have on the turret roof. The back pack is painted but I need to do some dry brushing and some pin washes before I'm completely satisfied. The figures are coming....

Aussie Distruptive Camo Paint
Model Color - Yellow Green - Base
Green Camo spots (Light, Dark) - Interior green, US Dark Green
Brown Camo Spots (Light, Dark) - Mud Brown, Tank Brown

Remember I still need to do some work on this...


Just a tease...


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Posted: Tuesday, September 01, 2009 - 03:34 PM UTC
Lookin' very nice Carmen......it will be very fun to judge this project at the show.
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Posted: Tuesday, September 01, 2009 - 03:34 PM UTC
Here's the picture I was trying to replicate

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Posted: Tuesday, September 01, 2009 - 06:27 PM UTC
That is truely a fantastic job! This thread has inspired me to start mine. Started it yesterday, so i should start a thread about mine. Hope it looks as good as yours Carmen!
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Posted: Tuesday, September 01, 2009 - 07:29 PM UTC
Holy crap Carmen. This is looking fantastic. Those pictures from the training ex are excellent as well. It's neat to go back and forth between your model and the picture of the real thing. Looks like you could go even dirtier on the tank if you wanted. Not that you have to.

Now if only you could add some realistic looking clouds of red dust to help show the movement.

And maybe a Kangaroo along side.

Matt