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SCALERAMA New Smoke Spray
exer
Joined: November 27, 2004
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Posted: Friday, June 12, 2009 - 12:49 AM UTC
SCALERAMA have added a Smoke Particle Spray to their Chemical Diorama Supplies range.
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bigal07
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Posted: Friday, June 12, 2009 - 01:34 AM UTC
That is either a bad photo of the smoke, or its so fine I can't see it, if its that straw like stuff, I'd rather stick to my cotton torn and pinched. 
youngc
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Posted: Friday, June 12, 2009 - 01:41 AM UTC
The picture above looks very much like snow. The stuff around the Thai fighter looks better though.
A nice attempt at achieving one of the four "impossible" elements in diorama making. Those being fire, water spray, dust and smoke. However, it does not achieve it to my satisfaction... to the extent that I would buy the product anyway.
Chas
A nice attempt at achieving one of the four "impossible" elements in diorama making. Those being fire, water spray, dust and smoke. However, it does not achieve it to my satisfaction... to the extent that I would buy the product anyway.
Chas
endrju007
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Posted: Friday, June 12, 2009 - 01:55 AM UTC
I've seen nicer smoke made of simple cotton here...
Good idea but it needs some improvement.
Andrzej
Good idea but it needs some improvement.
Andrzej
parrot
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Posted: Friday, June 12, 2009 - 08:23 AM UTC
Watched the video.
Still looks like a painted wod of cotton.
Still looks like a painted wod of cotton.
Grumpyoldman
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Posted: Friday, June 12, 2009 - 10:11 AM UTC
Sorry, Not impressed with the photos, or the video.
Looks like painted and pulled out cotton balls.
But the music was nice, and builds suspense, but the ending and end product was a total let down.
Looks like painted and pulled out cotton balls.
But the music was nice, and builds suspense, but the ending and end product was a total let down.
f1matt
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Posted: Friday, June 12, 2009 - 11:11 AM UTC
I don't know if it'll ever be possible to model truly realistic looking smoke. Looks like we have a ways to go still.
Matt
Matt
RedLeg
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Posted: Friday, June 12, 2009 - 11:32 AM UTC
Worst smoke ever
redleg
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Posted: Friday, June 12, 2009 - 06:33 PM UTC
Thanks for the info, but I also agree that it is quite the impossible dream to achieve successful smoke. That said, there is the opportunity for some individual to fluke their own convincing technique once in a blue moon and never do so again, but to have a spray that would replicate those results at will for any modeller? Nah.
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The stuff around the Thai fighter looks better though.
So here I was, thinking boxing ring, taped feet etc and smoke!
youngc
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Posted: Friday, June 12, 2009 - 10:22 PM UTC
Quoted Text
Quoted TextThe stuff around the Thai fighter looks better though.
So here I was, thinking boxing ring, taped feet etc and smoke!
I had a feeling you would be the one to notice that... Mr Wordsmith!
Chas
Pyromaniac
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Posted: Friday, June 12, 2009 - 10:58 PM UTC
i think this product has been marketed as the wrong thing. it looks nothing like smoke, but could be used effectively to make water spray. i'm thinking shells exploding in water here... 
endrju007
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Posted: Friday, June 12, 2009 - 11:03 PM UTC
Quoted Text
Quoted TextQuoted TextThe stuff around the Thai fighter looks better though.
So here I was, thinking boxing ring, taped feet etc and smoke!
I had a feeling you would be the one to notice that... Mr Wordsmith!
Chas
I didn't want to touch this one but vision of Darth Vader sitting on some Thai fighter can't go out of my head...
cheyenne
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Posted: Friday, June 12, 2009 - 11:24 PM UTC
Thanks for the review Pat ..................
You guys with your negative waves .............. come on think , look at the pic. Pat posted at the top of this post , ....................
You could always use it to represent dead sheep ....................
You guys with your negative waves .............. come on think , look at the pic. Pat posted at the top of this post , ....................
You could always use it to represent dead sheep ....................
exer
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Posted: Friday, June 12, 2009 - 11:38 PM UTC
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Thanks for the review Pat .................
Not a review Glenn! A news story.
I do write reviews, I work hard at it and hopefully they amount to more than reporting that something is available and adding pics from the manufacturer.
This isn't a review.
M18Hellcat
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Posted: Friday, June 12, 2009 - 11:44 PM UTC
looks more like painted saw dust. Not at all convincing,
cheyenne
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Posted: Saturday, June 13, 2009 - 12:10 AM UTC
Pat I know ......... but I just couldn't resist after the first guy called you the reviewer .................. [ about the jungle stuff ]
Sorry Pat I thought it was funny ................ I knew it was a news story , some people can't read or type .................... me included ...........................
Sorry Pat I thought it was funny ................ I knew it was a news story , some people can't read or type .................... me included ...........................
sgtreef
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Posted: Saturday, June 13, 2009 - 12:22 AM UTC
Great build on the Models but the smoke lacks a little finesse. 
jimbrae
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Posted: Saturday, June 13, 2009 - 01:49 AM UTC
Nope, it doesn't work for me (at least). However, at least here's a manufacturer who IS trying to solve problems like simulation of smoke. IMO, good for them. It seems that a lot of the time every time a New product or approach is presented, then it immediately becomes the subject of some pretty lame jokes. EXCEPTION - the Comic Book Guy comment was very funny...
Saying that, and saying it again, thank the little plastic gods, that there ARE manufacturers who are trying to develop new products and improve on what we already have.
So, maintain the critical faculties, but show a degree of restraint as well? If I want 'pithy' there are a lot of Shock Jocks out there who do it a LOT better...
Saying that, and saying it again, thank the little plastic gods, that there ARE manufacturers who are trying to develop new products and improve on what we already have.
So, maintain the critical faculties, but show a degree of restraint as well? If I want 'pithy' there are a lot of Shock Jocks out there who do it a LOT better...
exer
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Posted: Saturday, June 13, 2009 - 02:46 AM UTC
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Pat I know ......... but I just couldn't resist after the first guy called you the reviewer .................. [ about the jungle stuff ]
Sorry Pat I thought it was funny ................ I knew it was a news story , some people can't read or type .................... me included ...........................
Glenn....I forgive you
CReading
#001
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Posted: Saturday, June 13, 2009 - 10:29 AM UTC
Well, I give them credit for the effort but I'm not convinced that you can model realistic smoke with this product.
I'm not convinced that there were any panzer grey Jagdtigers either
Cheers,
Charles
I'm not convinced that there were any panzer grey Jagdtigers either
Cheers,
Charles
acav
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Posted: Saturday, June 13, 2009 - 01:16 PM UTC
While it might make pretty unconvincing 'smoke', surely this product could be employed over a wire armature tree to make halfway decent foliage...
Most trees are actually pretty 'dense' in appearance and I have a feeling this product might be helpful in replicating that effect in scale.
$0.02
acav out
Most trees are actually pretty 'dense' in appearance and I have a feeling this product might be helpful in replicating that effect in scale.
$0.02
acav out
bizzychicken
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Posted: Monday, June 15, 2009 - 07:12 AM UTC
Yea Me too, not much agood at making smoke. I bet it could be used for other effects like soot or used on burnt out hulks or burnt out buildings. i think any animation in dio's is very hard to obtain. One of the best animated Dio's I've seen is the early King Tiger 13 smashing through a wall in Normandy You know the one its awsome, cant find an image of it . Maybe someone can post an image of it. Well worth a look. geraint 
Pyromaniac
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Posted: Monday, June 15, 2009 - 08:51 PM UTC
i wanna see that dio now...
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