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thebear
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Posted: Friday, June 26, 2009 - 11:47 AM UTC
I'm looking for a good match for post WWII green used on soviet armor...Tamiya colors are the most available colors around here so let me know what you use ...I'm more into WWII stuff but I got a SAM 2 as a gift and need to know what color to paint the green base .

Thanks in advance
Rick
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Posted: Saturday, June 27, 2009 - 05:32 AM UTC
This is the Russian forum ...right ???
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Posted: Saturday, June 27, 2009 - 12:29 PM UTC
Yes, this is the Russian forum, but before asking for things previosly discussed, I recommend you to use the "Search" option, In the second page you have this post:

https://armorama.kitmaker.net/forums/131837&page=1

Hope this helps. Best regards.

José.
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Posted: Saturday, June 27, 2009 - 12:41 PM UTC
SImply enough, this is a HUGE can of worms....

Steve Zaloga says tamiya NAtO Green is a close match. So thats what I use.
thebear
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Posted: Saturday, June 27, 2009 - 01:59 PM UTC
it was a quick question and I did try the search first ...I was looking for opinions from those who use the forum ....

Rick
Thanks Jon..That's about what I thought ...and with filters and all ......
Momann
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Posted: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 - 03:28 AM UTC
I use the Tamiya color recommended in their kits but I think it's a bit dark so it gets mixed with a lot of white and a little bit of sand.
chefchris
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Posted: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 - 04:07 AM UTC
Richard,
I have used Field Gray as Modern Russian - it looks great as faded and I always use filtering. I have also been happy with IJN Green with some Sand added.

Warsaw pact colors tend to vary alittle bit more than the Russian ones.

Chris
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Posted: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 - 04:28 AM UTC
I use the model master "russian armor green"

but anything in that neighborhood is good enough once dirtied up a bit, really.
TheGreatPumpkin
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Posted: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 - 05:41 AM UTC
Rick,
Get ready for this one: 4BO (russian green) starts life as a medium olive green and as it weathers it gets DARKER. There are numerous chemical reasons for this, but suffice to say the color loses the yellow pigment. Neil Stokes, in his research on KV family of tanks, has discovered this little gem after looking at dozens of contemporary color photographs (color corrected). This came up in Neil's talk on Russian camo and markings of WW2 at the AMPS Nats last April in Havre de Grace, MD. I hope that helps.
Regards,
Georg
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Posted: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 - 06:24 AM UTC
Without being smart . . . he did say "post WW2". I only bring this up as I am interested too, but read only recently (the old classic Airfix Guide to Russian Tanks of WW2 (Steve Zaloga again), that as far as WW2 goes, there is no single correct shade - depends on the factory, the batch etc.

Sorry, that doesn't help answer the original question though.
TheGreatPumpkin
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Posted: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 - 10:42 AM UTC
Matt,
I was at work when I responded, so I didn't completely read the original post (sorry about that). But, it would stand to reason that in devastated postwar USSR, why would they spend their time and effort on something they already had when so many other things were wanting; like rebuilding cities? I say this because even the U.S. military kept stuff into the 1960's because it was much more cost effective to keep the older technology (M3 "greasegun" SMG's come to mind). So it is quite possible that that 4BO was pretty much the same stuff up until sometime much later. Just a thought.
Regards,
Georg
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