After looking at my model shelf, I realized that they are all of German persuasion. So, to draw me away from the dark side I found this fella heavily discounted and dirt cheap. (Was $30, bought for $17)
So, I go on finally building an allied vehicle. Now I'm no means a professional, but I'm calling this one the bare basics for two reasons.
1) Improve my skills with glue, sanding sticks, and the like. Also, I'm going to try highlighting and scratchesfor the first time. Wish me luck on that one...
2) After seeing photos of russian vehicles, the didn't go for much visually or really anything else. Just steel, gun, engine,and tracks. The Bare Basics of a tank.
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RSingleton
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Posted: Saturday, August 22, 2009 - 01:04 AM UTC
RSingleton
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Posted: Saturday, August 22, 2009 - 01:20 AM UTC
So... This is what you get in the box:
This seems to me to be a sound base kit. No flash, no holes. It all looks pretty good. Now yes I realize that there are motor holes, but last I checked, Germans didn't carry a mirror to check for 'em
The one thing I am kinda iffy about though is that a cap is put on the barrel end to make the muzzle this seems to be the one letdown of it. I just hope there aren't more to come
So I now venture forth with Rammstein and S.O.A.D. blaring to finally put an end to the Fascist production
(Sorry if I offended anyone with that line, I'm just glad to finally build an allied vehicle )
Rich
This seems to me to be a sound base kit. No flash, no holes. It all looks pretty good. Now yes I realize that there are motor holes, but last I checked, Germans didn't carry a mirror to check for 'em
The one thing I am kinda iffy about though is that a cap is put on the barrel end to make the muzzle this seems to be the one letdown of it. I just hope there aren't more to come
So I now venture forth with Rammstein and S.O.A.D. blaring to finally put an end to the Fascist production
(Sorry if I offended anyone with that line, I'm just glad to finally build an allied vehicle )
Rich
RSingleton
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Posted: Saturday, August 22, 2009 - 04:20 AM UTC
So just barely a few hours later, the majority of the tank is already done! This kit is definitely a shake and bake kit. But don't let that fool you, there is some nice detail in this kit. The suspension came together nicely and quickly with no fit issues.
Step 3 went together very well with the drivers hatch looking good. The only bad part is that there are no visors that you can see with the perscope up, but you can't tell too much.
Step 4 is pretty busy but easy to complete. Here is where I had a few issues. The air intakes? (grates on the side by the engine) are a bit to small from the bottom, but with careful gluing and placement it's difficult to tell.
The back rear plate didn't match up with the upper hull so some fill was needed, but now you can't really tell.
On to step 6 and 7 (skipping step 5): The Turret was very simple to do with no problems at all. Just a few tiny lift lugs for the turret were challenging to place, but with help of tweezers, the got put in the right place. No gaps.
Here are the pics of less than four hours work:
So for almost less than four hours, you almost have a comple tank. The only thing I've disliked about this kit is that the few gaps take a little work to get rid of. But the major down fall is the you can see through the sponsons and can tell this kit is 'spose to have a motor, but hopefully I can hide that
Now, to clean it up and finish up everything and get it primed and highlighted if all goes good...
Rich
Step 3 went together very well with the drivers hatch looking good. The only bad part is that there are no visors that you can see with the perscope up, but you can't tell too much.
Step 4 is pretty busy but easy to complete. Here is where I had a few issues. The air intakes? (grates on the side by the engine) are a bit to small from the bottom, but with careful gluing and placement it's difficult to tell.
The back rear plate didn't match up with the upper hull so some fill was needed, but now you can't really tell.
On to step 6 and 7 (skipping step 5): The Turret was very simple to do with no problems at all. Just a few tiny lift lugs for the turret were challenging to place, but with help of tweezers, the got put in the right place. No gaps.
Here are the pics of less than four hours work:
So for almost less than four hours, you almost have a comple tank. The only thing I've disliked about this kit is that the few gaps take a little work to get rid of. But the major down fall is the you can see through the sponsons and can tell this kit is 'spose to have a motor, but hopefully I can hide that
Now, to clean it up and finish up everything and get it primed and highlighted if all goes good...
Rich
RSingleton
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Posted: Saturday, August 22, 2009 - 05:34 AM UTC
Yes, an update in less than an hour. (Man this kit is time consuming )
The gun and mantlet were made and attached to the turret. Real easy to do with no major problems. The only hard part was gettin' the barrel to sit right in the mantlet.
After that, the instructions are vague, so most of it's guestamating now. I attached the handrails and going as "bare basic" only have one thing of stowage, a tool box.
I filled in the holes for the extra cylindrical fuel tanks. But am still waing to fill in the joins on the upper and lower hull joining after painting and track fixation on the bottom.
There you have it so far. Now I'm off to get some primer and a dark color to highlight
Rich
The gun and mantlet were made and attached to the turret. Real easy to do with no major problems. The only hard part was gettin' the barrel to sit right in the mantlet.
After that, the instructions are vague, so most of it's guestamating now. I attached the handrails and going as "bare basic" only have one thing of stowage, a tool box.
I filled in the holes for the extra cylindrical fuel tanks. But am still waing to fill in the joins on the upper and lower hull joining after painting and track fixation on the bottom.
There you have it so far. Now I'm off to get some primer and a dark color to highlight
Rich
casualmodeler
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Posted: Saturday, August 22, 2009 - 05:42 AM UTC
Nice start there, Richard!
I have the same kit in my stash waiting for to get finished. So far I have filled the holes in the bottom, otherwise itīs waiting for itīs turn to get finished. My kit will be Beutepanzer of Grossdeutchland division with russian commanders cupola. Donīt worry about those holes on sponsons, same holes youīll find in Zvezdaīs kit. Couple pieces of styrene will solve the issue. Will be watching this with interest.
I have the same kit in my stash waiting for to get finished. So far I have filled the holes in the bottom, otherwise itīs waiting for itīs turn to get finished. My kit will be Beutepanzer of Grossdeutchland division with russian commanders cupola. Donīt worry about those holes on sponsons, same holes youīll find in Zvezdaīs kit. Couple pieces of styrene will solve the issue. Will be watching this with interest.
lespauljames
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Posted: Saturday, August 22, 2009 - 07:46 AM UTC
hay Rich!! good clean build so far!! i dont really use tamiya(i have a sort of tamiyaphobia)
was this kit a '74 kit? it usually says on the box.
what colour scheme are you gonna aim for?
was this kit a '74 kit? it usually says on the box.
what colour scheme are you gonna aim for?
casualmodeler
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Posted: Saturday, August 22, 2009 - 08:50 AM UTC
You are hitting close, James. It says 1975 on the box.
RSingleton
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Posted: Saturday, August 22, 2009 - 09:08 AM UTC
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Nice start there, Richard!
I have the same kit in my stash waiting for to get finished. So far I have filled the holes in the bottom, otherwise itīs waiting for itīs turn to get finished. My kit will be Beutepanzer of Grossdeutchland division with russian commanders cupola. Donīt worry about those holes on sponsons, same holes youīll find in Zvezdaīs kit. Couple pieces of styrene will solve the issue. Will be watching this with interest.
Well, It shouldn't take long to make it. Heck, I'm already done buildin' it! As for the holes, got 'em covered
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hay Rich!! good clean build so far!! i dont really use tamiya(i have a sort of tamiyaphobia)
was this kit a '74 kit? it usually says on the box.
what colour scheme are you gonna aim for?
1975. Made 17 years before I was even born Still has pretty good detail, but I'd say is long surpassed by nowdays standards.
As for scheme, just look below
So it's now painted. All I got to do is weather and add the tracks. After that, I'm still wondering.
I used black spray to highlight it but you can't tell. Wish I took a pic of it though. It was the top secret night fighting/ solar eclipse combat T-34
Here it is so far. The bottom pic is just for comparison
Rich
MCR
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Posted: Saturday, August 22, 2009 - 10:18 AM UTC
This is one of my all time favorite kits. Deeply flawed, but I've still seen dozens of them built up into really respectable models.
I'm enjoying seeing someone just bulling through the build without any after market or major surgery.
What you've done so far looks fine and I'm looking forward to seeing how long (short? ) it takes you to finish!
Mark
I'm enjoying seeing someone just bulling through the build without any after market or major surgery.
What you've done so far looks fine and I'm looking forward to seeing how long (short? ) it takes you to finish!
Mark
lespauljames
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Posted: Saturday, August 22, 2009 - 10:32 AM UTC
looks good cant see any problems here!
and your nearly as old as me!haha
and your nearly as old as me!haha
RSingleton
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Posted: Saturday, August 22, 2009 - 04:11 PM UTC
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This is one of my all time favorite kits. Deeply flawed, but I've still seen dozens of them built up into really respectable models.
I'm enjoying seeing someone just bulling through the build without any after market or major surgery.
What you've done so far looks fine and I'm looking forward to seeing how long (short? ) it takes you to finish!
Thanks for taking a look. But I think I reached a barrier I never accounted for. The Tracks. Both snapped after I had them installed and they are impossible to repair. So I guess this may be my first venture into aftermarket. (Though by no means goin' for fruils)
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looks good cant see any problems here!
and your nearly as old as me!haha
Man, your old age is gettin to ya. Theres a big problem you didn't spot, it aint covered with balkan crosses! Nah, It looks good from the factory floor. Though I have to admit, having a self healing floor and a fine finished wood display square for Comrade Stalin's inspection sure beats the rough and tumble floors of the Ural factories
But this is for anyone out there, if you got a set of free or cheap indy tracks out there for the T-34 that'd work for the 1943, (Preferbly some dragon magic tracks) I'd greatly appriciate it as the "bare basics" can't be complete without tracks
More pictures tomorrow as 11:10 p.m. is to late for me to take any good ones
Rich
RSingleton
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Posted: Sunday, August 23, 2009 - 02:39 AM UTC
I said I was going to have pictures up in the morning so here they are:
The top hull is still seperable from the bottom so I can still add tracks whenever I can get some. I'm still wondering if I should maybe do my first oil dot filter. I'm just wondering if I need to seal it up and how...
If anyone can help me find some tracks, tell me how to do the oil dot filter easily, or you just like takin a look, I appriciate it
Rich
The top hull is still seperable from the bottom so I can still add tracks whenever I can get some. I'm still wondering if I should maybe do my first oil dot filter. I'm just wondering if I need to seal it up and how...
If anyone can help me find some tracks, tell me how to do the oil dot filter easily, or you just like takin a look, I appriciate it
Rich
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Posted: Sunday, August 23, 2009 - 05:15 AM UTC
I say go for the dot filter. Seems like the perfect opportunity to practice.
As far as AM tracks go some cast off Magic Tracks would be a good choice, someone out there must have a set they're willing to give up.
Barring that RPM make a fairly usable set and they normally run cheap. I'd only say that you should order two sets, if you do, because they seem to have a problem with short shots.
Mark
As far as AM tracks go some cast off Magic Tracks would be a good choice, someone out there must have a set they're willing to give up.
Barring that RPM make a fairly usable set and they normally run cheap. I'd only say that you should order two sets, if you do, because they seem to have a problem with short shots.
Mark
lespauljames
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Posted: Sunday, August 23, 2009 - 06:38 AM UTC
looks good, i like the mud, although you could vary the colour a little,?
like the green, what did you use? i can never get my green right.
i would Try on BST forum and soviet forum for magic tracks.
i use tamiya vithout a seal for dot filter, i use 99 p oils and white spirit. i would test it on scrap first tho! keep it up
like the green, what did you use? i can never get my green right.
i would Try on BST forum and soviet forum for magic tracks.
i use tamiya vithout a seal for dot filter, i use 99 p oils and white spirit. i would test it on scrap first tho! keep it up
RSingleton
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Posted: Monday, August 24, 2009 - 11:15 AM UTC
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I say go for the dot filter. Seems like the perfect opportunity to practice.
That's pretty much what I was thinking. Is it all right if use gloss paint or do I just stick with flat or matte? Local hardware store actually has some model paint (testors in the square bottles), but it's all gloss.
I was thinking of using Green, White, and a possible tan. But if there are better colors, let me know.
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looks good, i like the mud, although you could vary the colour a little,?
like the green, what did you use? i can never get my green right.
That dust layer is just the first heavy layer, I'm going to break it up once I get the hulls joined.
The green is Modelmaster Dark Green from a spray can.
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As far as AM tracks go some cast off Magic Tracks would be a good choice, someone out there must have a set they're willing to give up.
Barring that RPM make a fairly usable set and they normally run cheap. I'd only say that you should order two sets, if you do, because they seem to have a problem with short shots.
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i would Try on BST forum and soviet forum for magic tracks.
Keepin my fingers, crossed, I think I've found someone who'll help me out with my track problem.
Well, hopefully progress will resume once I find out which oil/enamel colors to get and get the tracks in.
Rich
MCR
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Posted: Monday, August 24, 2009 - 04:06 PM UTC
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Quoted TextI say go for the dot filter. Seems like the perfect opportunity to practice.
That's pretty much what I was thinking. Is it all right if use gloss paint or do I just stick with flat or matte? Local hardware store actually has some model paint (testors in the square bottles), but it's all gloss.
I was thinking of using Green, White, and a possible tan. But if there are better colors, let me know.
Frankly, I'm no master of the technique myself (I'm still experimenting) but there are some great tutorials on line that I've seen (Missing Links comes to mind).
Basically, if not using acrylic base paints you need to lay down a coat of clear acrylic and wait a few day to a week before starting.
Pale green, medium blue, dull yellow, and small dots of white (all artist's oils) seem to work as a start over a dark green base.
Mark
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Posted: Monday, August 24, 2009 - 09:34 PM UTC
Before you get too far in, the tow points on the front of the hull should be snipped off and sanded smooth. They were welded in place by the Aberdeen Proving Ground staff in Maryland to facilitate moving their T-34 around, and were dutifully copied by Tamiya thirty years later (you will notice they are missing in Tamiya's current box top painting). The Soviet towing lugs are those complicated hooks on the glacis plate.
Replacing the molded plastic screen on the rear of the engine deck with photoetch is a gigantic improvement you could at least consider. Eduard offers one for the Tamiya kit.
Replacing the molded plastic screen on the rear of the engine deck with photoetch is a gigantic improvement you could at least consider. Eduard offers one for the Tamiya kit.
RSingleton
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Posted: Monday, September 07, 2009 - 09:58 AM UTC
I know it's been a long time since an update but life thre w a whole bunch of stuff at once on me so the t-34 was the very least of my priorities. Anyway, back to business on the tank itself.
Anyway, if ya didn't know the old rubber-band tracks snapped on me but I'd really like to thank Mark Aldrich from Missing-lynx (great guy to work with too) for getting me some dragon indie tracks.
Also, I lost the periscopes on the driver's hatch but I got some to replace 'em. (Thanks MCR!)
Last but not least I got rid of the big towing lugs (thanks for the heads up GeraldOwens), but apperently a digital camera can pick up details the eye can't see...
Oh well, more work to do whenever I can. Be here's some pics to show the bottom hull is done. But not glued to the upper hull. Haven't even started all the new stuff on the upper hull
Rich
Anyway, if ya didn't know the old rubber-band tracks snapped on me but I'd really like to thank Mark Aldrich from Missing-lynx (great guy to work with too) for getting me some dragon indie tracks.
Also, I lost the periscopes on the driver's hatch but I got some to replace 'em. (Thanks MCR!)
Last but not least I got rid of the big towing lugs (thanks for the heads up GeraldOwens), but apperently a digital camera can pick up details the eye can't see...
Oh well, more work to do whenever I can. Be here's some pics to show the bottom hull is done. But not glued to the upper hull. Haven't even started all the new stuff on the upper hull
Rich
lespauljames
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Posted: Monday, September 07, 2009 - 10:59 AM UTC
looks great !!
the seam on the turret could ahve been a little cleaner, but the rest of the build is nice.
i really like the colour, great work
the seam on the turret could ahve been a little cleaner, but the rest of the build is nice.
i really like the colour, great work
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Posted: Monday, September 07, 2009 - 12:24 PM UTC
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the seam on the turret could ahve been a little cleaner
I believe the seam is supposed to be there.
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Posted: Monday, September 07, 2009 - 01:12 PM UTC
I think this is a perfect time to try some simple washes and a little dry brushing to bring the details to life. A real dark wash will make the engine deck grills look much more realistic. Another thing that would really make this tank pop out among all the teutonic armor would be one of those big white soviet slogans. I would have left some more of the equipment on the tank as alot of it isn't stowage, but was factory standard equipment like the spare tracks and the external fuel tanks. The bed rolls, crates and ditching logs would be stowage.
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Posted: Monday, September 07, 2009 - 03:27 PM UTC
nice work so far. love the weathering on the lower chassis. i just pulled off a sherman with the oil dot method. could show you picks so you see how it turned out. i used blue, yellow, white, burnt umber, and various shades of green. all top of the line oils. just dont put to much oil paint on or it will be to strnong. you need it to be a suttle, fading look. gg so far. like to see more soon,
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lespauljames
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Posted: Monday, September 07, 2009 - 09:21 PM UTC
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the seam on the turret could ahve been a little cleaner
I believe the seam is supposed to be there.
Im aware of the casting + welding seam, but there is a lilk construction seam, but thats minor.