They used both the VC and IC plus the M4 Sherman Firefly.

Hi Joe,

I assumed he was refering to the M4 Ic Hybrid the more readily available kit, hence mentioning the M4 Firefly as well. I believe the Canadians had both along wiht the VC.

So just to clarify

M4 Sherman Ic - M4 Medium Tank with 17pdr
M4 Sherman Ic hybrid (or composite if you prefer) - M4 Medium Tank with composite hull: cast front and welded rear end and 17pdr gun
M4A4 Sherman Vc Firefly - M4A4 Medium Tank modified with 17-pdr gun (Firefly)

Kits are available for both the M4A4 Sherman VC Firefly and M4 Sherman Ic Hybrid. If you want an M4 Ic you will need to do a kit bash of a standard M4 hull with the 17pdr turret.

Al

Here's a Canadian Firefly IC. This is the M4 welded version. Like Al said if you want to do this one you have to do a kit bash of an M4 with the proper firefly turret and 17 pounder.

Note the cast transmission cover that distinguished the IC an IC hybrid versions from the VC's which had the 3 piece transmission cover. Interestingly, also note the tracks. This particular tank is outfitted with the T54E1 steel chevron tracks but carries the T62 type as spares on the transmission cover.

Hi John

I'd be very interested in acquiring your spare decals for the Hussars and Fusiliers. I've pm's you.

many thanks

Bob

Now if some one could find and post some good clear pics of 28th BCR Sherman Vs during Totalize (before going up the hill, or of the survivors), I for one would be very happy. Still hoping.

Roy

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Here's a Canadian Firefly IC. This is the M4 welded version. Like Al said if you want to do this one you have to do a kit bash of an M4 with the proper firefly turret and 17 pounder.

Note the cast transmission cover that distinguished the IC an IC hybrid versions from the VC's which had the 3 piece transmission cover. Interestingly, also note the tracks. This particular tank is outfitted with the T54E1 steel chevron tracks but carries the T62 type as spares on the transmission cover.

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This particular one is apparently a Baldwin built M4, which will require a tad more work to duplicate using existing kits. Unlike other M4 tanks, the Baldwin products had a vertical upper tail plate (on other M4's, they were slanted at about ten degrees), and this plant never switched from the direct vision ports to the larger hoods with periscopes when the other factories did. Look closely and you'll see the driver's hoods are small and round, and the applique armor isn't spaced as far away from the glacis. These tanks did get the later cast transmission housings, though, as well as the later suspension types, which explains the tank's apparent mix of early and late features.
That said, other Sherman IC tanks were based on more common M4 hulls, so the Dragon M4 "Normandy Sherman" would be a sensible starting point. The Tamiya M4 is not as useful, as the cast parts on the glacis are more suitable for an M4A3 or M4A4.