Did the Iraqis use the Russian ZSU 23 in Gulf War 1. I am building the DML kit and wanted to do soemthing different. Does anyone have pics and is there any where I can get decals for one at? Thanks. This will be my first modern armor, generally I buld pre-45 stuff. Scott

Yes they did. You might ask if anyone has leftover decals from the Scud kit as it had Iraqi markings included. Echelon makes the Iraqi flag decals in one of their sets, but I wouldn't get the set just for those. Many of the vehicles did not have the national flag, but just tactical markings, which are easy enought to replicate. You could also just burn it out, as that's what happened to most of them anyway.

There is or was an Iraqi ZSU 23 at the Army Air Corp museum at Middle Wallop. If memory serves it was brought back at the end of the first gulf war.

I may have set from the SCUD. Any suggestions for Tamiya or Vallejo for the Iraqi sand color?

Yes, they used them.
I saw pictures of destroyed and captured vehicles somewhere on the net.
Their color was only sand-yellow.
Perhaps I find pictures of them on the net again, or I have some in my image-"collection".

Sorry, i have no exact color for this.

greetings...
Soeren

Iraqi Sand varied quite a bit. Find something you like and go with it. They ranged in tone from tan to pale stone to a pinkish hue. You can leave some Green on parts as they sometimes didn't paint the inside of the road wheels and the entire bottom. I have the old Grenadier publications on the Iraqi armor and it has alot of shots of one as well as BRDMs, T-72s, and the BMP-1. The markings were crude, divisional marks ( these were usually Geometric shapes that were colored ) and registration numbers in arabic.

HTH
Chris

Here's one :

...and another one with 2-tone camo :


Frenchy

I don't know about you, but my DML ZSU-23-4M kit came with Iraqi markings.

nope not iraqi mrks in mine. if you are not going to use yours I would be interested in buying them.

I'd love to help, but I am afraid I was going to do an Iraqi one too!

I found a set out of a BRDM. I assume they are the same. Thanks.

For the Iraqi Sand Color......try Vallejo Iraqi Sand...............

Ahh, i also have this 2-tone camo-photo in my collection.
I thought, it was an egyptian/afghanistan or so.
The colors looks a bit like: sand, green and brown.

My BRDM-kits by Dragon are also in Iraqi-schemes, with sand and green.

greetings...
Soeren

I don't know...Maybe you're right ...and the caption is wrong

Edit : I've just found a High resolution format for this very picture on DefenseImagery.mil : no location but it's dated 1/31/1974 ! A bit too early for ODS There's another shot of the same vehicle (front view - dated 2/1/1974 ) that shows what looks like an IDF registration number...
http://www.defenseimagery.mil/imagery.html#a=search&s=zsu The pics I'm talking about are on the last page, but there are several ODS Iraqi Shilka pics on the first one...

Frenchy

I would second the Vallejo Iraqi Sand For the color.

I saw one of these also about a year ago being transported north bound on interstate I - 95 on the back of a tractor-trailer low boy. The color scheme it had was similar to the 3 tone camo picture that Frenchy posted, but a little more faded. I was told it was a previously owned Iraq vehicle. I wasn't prepared to see this simpily driving to work in the morning. So all I have are some half decent cell phone camera pictures. - Bobby

The funny thing was that the tractor- trailer driver had left the radar dish erected and it was pretty close to some of the under side of the bridges he was driving under.