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Centauro early version build
Samuca
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Posted: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 - 10:11 AM UTC
S!
Nice work so far.
I'm building one myself too.
How or when do you will install the clear parts?
Best regards
DeskJockey
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Posted: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 - 12:25 PM UTC
I'll install the turret periscopes at the end of the build. I've already masked and painted them (using the Echelon set for the masks). The driver's periscopes are already installed, as I found I needed to put them in before joining the upper and lower hulls.

Looks like today I won't get to gloss-coating, but I'll try to do so later this week.
Samuca
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Posted: Sunday, February 28, 2010 - 09:48 AM UTC
S!
Lucas, could you make a favor?
I'm little lost with P.E.. Trumpeter's guide dosen't help much. Could take a picture of the front lights, specially the back side of the left cover, where the photo etched frames must be glued in the hull.
Thanks
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Posted: Sunday, February 28, 2010 - 01:02 PM UTC
No problem, Samuel. Here are three pictures from several angles. I know how frustrating and bad the Trumpeter instructions for the PE are. It took me some puzzling over images from Primeportal to get things right. Let me know if these are what you need.







Incidentally, the first picture is the one that comes closest to showing the real-life color of my Centauro at this stage. I've added an overall raw umber filter, a burnt umber wash, and a black pinwash around the grilles and selected details, all with oil paints.
trahe
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Posted: Sunday, February 28, 2010 - 01:25 PM UTC
Very nice! Looking forward to seeing it weathered!
Samuca
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Posted: Tuesday, March 02, 2010 - 11:21 AM UTC
S!
Lucas, awesome pictures.

Trumpeter's guides sometimes are awful..
DeskJockey
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Posted: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 - 02:56 PM UTC
I have been remiss in updating this build log, but here's where my Centauro is at right now. I glosscoated, decaled, applied a pin wash, flat coated, applied filters, applied pigments, and now am in the process of adding the last few detail bits. Last night I installed the light lenses and PE light guards. I had a bit of trouble with the light guards, as they are too large. I had to trim a couple of them to fit. I've pretty much finished the hull, so here are the pics:








Overall, I'm going for a moderate amount of weathering (I'm aiming for the look it would have after being out for a couple of days in the field). In looking at it, I think I'll go back and add a bit more black pigments right below the exhaust, as too much of the paint is showing through. Let me know what you think and if there's anything more I could do to tweak it and make it better.

This week I'll finish installing the last few bits on the turret (the loader's MG, antennas, and CITV glass) and call this one done!
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Posted: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 - 02:58 PM UTC
Rats, as I was looking at the pictures, I realized I forgot to add a wash to the tow cable!

I'll add that to the to-do list.
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Posted: Sunday, March 14, 2010 - 06:51 AM UTC
Well, I wrapped up the Centauro this weekend. I gave the tow cable and machine gun ammo can a black wash to accentuate detail, added guitar string antennas, and touched up a few errant glue spots with clear flat. This was my first build using Vallejo clear flat (I used the Model Air version for simplicity) and I am quite pleased with the results. If sprayed on until faintly milky, it dries completely clear and flat. Here are a few overall shots of the vehicle:











I used the Echelon reflectors for all of the lights, and I have to say I like the effect and ease of use a lot. Here's a shot of the rear lights.


In this picture you can see the mirrors I made out of silver reflective mylar (from a AAA sticker that came in with the junk mail).


In this shot you can see the the gun mantlet cover, which was a pain to thin down so it would sit properly (more or less). I painted the cover with a mix of Vallejo Model Color paints and used Vallejo's U.S. Uniform Green for the wire holding it in place. This was also my first time using Vallejo paints, and, aside from a major mishap that led to a gunmetal-colored carpet (don't ask, see my post on it if you want the grizzly details ), I was generally pleased with them. They mix easily, brush paint very well, and dry dead-flat.


In this pic you can better see the pigments I applied. I used several shades of MIG pigments to get a moderate dusty look, focusing on the lower hull and wheels.


Let me know what you think!
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Posted: Sunday, March 14, 2010 - 09:35 AM UTC
Great job, Lucas!!

I'm thinking about picking up the later version of this one myself!

Remember how long those antennae were right off the top of your head?

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Posted: Sunday, March 14, 2010 - 11:17 AM UTC
Thanks, Richard! As for the antennas, I couldn't find any info on the exact length of modern Italian antennas, so I cut them the same length as the ones I used on my Abrams--2 and 3/4" each.
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Posted: Sunday, March 14, 2010 - 11:28 AM UTC
Very nice job all round Lucas. I especially like the effect you've achieved on the wheels.

I've been ummm-ing and aaah-ing about getting a Centauro myself to add to the stash. Looking at yours has nudged me a little bit closer to opening my wallet (again).

- Steve
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Posted: Sunday, March 14, 2010 - 11:40 AM UTC
Thanks Lucas!

That's about what I was thinking! When in doubt that's how I do it too!

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Posted: Monday, March 15, 2010 - 11:10 AM UTC
Thanks, Steve! I'd say go for it. The kit has its issues, but is accurate, detailed, and very good looking once you put it together. I'm thinking of getting a kit of the long version to do up as an Iraq vehicle.


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Very nice job all round Lucas. I especially like the effect you've achieved on the wheels.

I've been ummm-ing and aaah-ing about getting a Centauro myself to add to the stash. Looking at yours has nudged me a little bit closer to opening my wallet (again).

- Steve

Samuca
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Posted: Monday, March 15, 2010 - 12:47 PM UTC
S!
Nice looking Centauro, Lucas.
In the headlights assembly, what was the sequence you followed? The clear parts and the PE grids were installed after the hull painting?
Again Trumpeter's guide is very poor. The grid is installed over the clear part or over the headlight frame?
Thanks
bravo2zero
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Posted: Monday, March 15, 2010 - 01:02 PM UTC
Hi Lucas, i've been meaning to enter the world of modern armour from quite some time apart from being most of my model kits are wwii germans with 1 exceptional Hobbyboss V-150 Commando, your built had given me the push that the next purchase would be of modern armour. Overall a nice built from you & i enjoyed it very much from the start of this thread.

Faisal
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Posted: Monday, March 15, 2010 - 01:06 PM UTC
Samuel--I left the clear part and the light grills off until after I had finished painting the hull. The light guards attach to the headlight frame, not to the clear part.

The below two links from Primeportal show it more clearly:

http://data3.primeportal.net/tanks/marco_folin/centauro/images/centauro_43_of_93.jpg

http://data3.primeportal.net/tanks/marco_folin/centauro/images/centauro_44_of_93.jpg

One thing to note, the PE grill doesn't fit well inside the light guards for the two lights that are by themselves (the ones pictured in the first link above). I had to trim down the top two feet that attach the grill to the light body to make them fit.

Hope this helps.

Faisal--thanks! I'm glad you liked it.
Samuca
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Posted: Sunday, April 11, 2010 - 02:16 PM UTC
S!
Lucas, me again.
How do you assemble the PE's step boards. I'm very frustrated.
The pieces are so small and fragile. I'm facing problems putting the small divisions inside wich one ( the very small pices, 13 in total).
Do you made some sort of template in order to align all pieces.
It are very, very good.
Best regards.
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Posted: Sunday, April 11, 2010 - 02:58 PM UTC
Samuel--the small dividers for the steps are not wide enough to fit well. I lost one of them, so I ended up making replacements from strip styrene cut to the right size. I used a new Xacto to cut a serrated pattern on the top edge of the styrene replacements, then carefully superglued them in place. I didn't use a template, but one probably would have helped get them spaced a little more evenly.
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Posted: Thursday, April 15, 2010 - 02:58 PM UTC
Hey Lucas, great job buddy. I like the wheathering, dusty w/ big dirty feet( wheels)
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Posted: Thursday, April 15, 2010 - 10:11 PM UTC
Drool, drool! . Excellent job Lucas! I've got the Spanish version lined up next on my workbench.
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Posted: Friday, April 16, 2010 - 12:29 AM UTC
Lucas, looks great! Been thinking about getting one of these. If mine turns out half as good, I'll be happy!
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Posted: Sunday, August 26, 2012 - 11:20 PM UTC
Hi,

nice work.

I have one question. The last axle of the Centauro is also steered or optional steered? In a video i saw a steered axle but in some pictures the last axle is not steered. Can somebody help me with it? I want to show my model with steered wheels.

Best Regards
Tad_Onami
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Posted: Sunday, August 26, 2012 - 11:58 PM UTC
Tad--the pictures I have only show the front two wheels turning, but the suspension set-up suggests the rear set of wheels also is steerable (see the first set of pictures in this thread). It may be that the rear wheels only steer in specific situations. Hope this helps.
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Posted: Monday, August 27, 2012 - 09:24 AM UTC
very nice job on the build,great work.