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Posted: Thursday, January 14, 2010 - 11:53 AM UTC
Hi All,
I'm looking for photos of the Soviet MAZ 537 tank transporter in combat with either the Russians innAfghanistan or any of the nations that used it in the mid-east.I am building the Trumpeter kit with the T-62 (or maybe even the Tamiya T-55) . Books or websites would be helpful-I did google it but didn't come up with anything useful. Thanks in advance for your help !

Rich
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Posted: Friday, January 15, 2010 - 08:33 AM UTC
Hullo
Try looking at;
http://news.webshots.com/album/559015699hQwGfD?start=24
look at all the pages, you will find lots of MAZ in Afghan Army service.
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Posted: Friday, January 15, 2010 - 09:35 AM UTC
What about some Georgian MAZ in South Ossetia :




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Posted: Friday, January 15, 2010 - 11:12 AM UTC
Hi guys,

Tim and Frenchy-thanks very much for your help-I'll try those and let you know how I make out !!
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Posted: Friday, January 15, 2010 - 11:53 AM UTC
Dear Frenchy
Do you have any more photos of these? they are great photos!!
Best Wishes
Tim
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Posted: Friday, January 15, 2010 - 03:36 PM UTC
Heavy tractor Soviet Army Maz-537, Salang, Afghanistan 1988 Afghanistan 1987, the Bagram - the road Salang Location - "Hnykaet Khumri, Afghanistan

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Posted: Friday, January 15, 2010 - 03:42 PM UTC
In Chechnya ...

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Posted: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 - 09:16 AM UTC

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In Chechnya ...



Thanks for the pictures Dmitriy-those are what I'm looking for. The one from Chechnya is very interesting-is that some sort of self-propelled artillery on the trailer?
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Posted: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 - 10:05 AM UTC

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Dear Frenchy
Do you have any more photos of these? they are great photos!!
Best Wishes
Tim


Unfortunately no..here's the webpage they come from :
http://otvaga2004.narod.ru/publ_w5/024_osetiaunderfire.htm

HTH
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Posted: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 - 11:13 AM UTC

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In Chechnya ...



Thanks for the pictures Dmitriy-those are what I'm looking for. The one from Chechnya is very interesting-is that some sort of self-propelled artillery on the trailer?


Looks like a 2S19 ; http://www.armscontrol.ru/atmtc/arms_systems/land/artillery/self_propelled/Msta-S_2S19_SelfProp.htm

HTH
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Posted: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 - 08:39 PM UTC
Hi Richard!
This can be useful.
http://www.dishmodels.ru/wshow.htm?p=141
http://scalemodels.ru/modules/photo/viewcat_cid_286.html
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Posted: Thursday, January 21, 2010 - 09:29 AM UTC



Is it just me or is there something wrong with this website ? It's now impossible to enlarge the thumbnails

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Posted: Thursday, January 21, 2010 - 09:42 AM UTC



Thanks again Dmitrit, I saw that 2S19 in one of my Concord books on the T-80 or T-90-I can't remember which.
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Posted: Thursday, January 21, 2010 - 11:25 AM UTC

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Is it just me or is there something wrong with this website ? It's now impossible to enlarge the thumbnails

Frenchy

I have the same problem ...
Probably something with the site ...
Or maybe need a registration.
Previously, everything was normal.
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Posted: Thursday, January 21, 2010 - 11:28 AM UTC

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Thanks again Dmitrit, I saw that 2S19 in one of my Concord books on the T-80 or T-90-I can't remember which.

Probably a book on the T-80, MSTA-S is made on its basis.
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Posted: Sunday, January 24, 2010 - 05:33 AM UTC

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Thanks again Dmitrit, I saw that 2S19 in one of my Concord books on the T-80 or T-90-I can't remember which.

Probably a book on the T-80, MSTA-S is made on its basis.


Yeah I think that was it. Another question for you and anyone else:
Did the Soviets use brown or black to camoflage their T-62Ms in Afghanistan ? I'm proabably going to use Trumpeters T-62 Mod. 1962 for the Maz-537. The Maz-537 I'll paint green, but I saw some pictures in Zalogas concord book titled "Armor of the Afghanistan War" of the T-62Ms and they look to have brown camoflage on them, but in the text (or maybe another of his books?) I believe he states that they were sprayed with black camo. Also, I am going to try to adapt the old Aires BDD update set to make a T-62M, even though it's made for the Tamiya T-62.
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Posted: Sunday, January 24, 2010 - 10:28 AM UTC
Hi Richard!
Brown or black camouflage on the T-62 in Afghanistan, and not only, I have not seen.
If there was, most likely in a single copy.
But this is unlikely ...
Basically, all the tanks were painted in green.
If possible, show the picture of Steven Zaloga.
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Posted: Monday, January 25, 2010 - 07:38 AM UTC
Hi Dmitiry,

I read it somewhere , but can't recall where....maybe it was in the new (?) osprey book on the T-62.....but have not seen any photos or art work depicting them with any camo paint in Afghanistan. It seems like Afghanistan was a very mixed bag with Soviet vehicles. I've seen lots of pictures of BMPs with sand/light grey camo and some other softskins and trucks as well, but that's about it.
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Posted: Monday, January 25, 2010 - 08:22 AM UTC
Actually, i'm looking at the concord book "Armor of the AfghanistanWar", (by Zaloga,Luczak and Beldam) right now and on page 10 or 11 (the pages are not numbered !) there are a series of pictures which show some sort of camoflage on the T-62s. On the next page there is a group of soldiers eating melon and behind them there is T-62 which clearly has a camo paint job on it...just can't really tell what the colors are....frustrating ! The captions say these tanks are form the Berlin Regiment of the 5th Guards Motor Rifle Division. Very interesting.....
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Posted: Monday, January 25, 2010 - 08:55 AM UTC
Great images!
Yes, the vehicle is an 2S19 MSTA-S howitzer and the first two images shows parts of the SA-11 / Buk-system.
An intersting combination, when Panzershop will release its 2S19 howitzer-kit!
And also a SA-11 / Buk model kit would be very intersting for me.

greetings...
Soeren
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Posted: Monday, January 25, 2010 - 08:55 PM UTC
About walkarounds at Dishmodels.ru. There are technical problems with image storage server. So fullscale images are temporary unavailable. The site team is working on solving the situation.
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Posted: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 - 02:32 AM UTC
Thanks Dmitry, I began to worry ...
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Posted: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 - 03:05 AM UTC
Richard,
I found this pattern of color.

T-62M from the OKSV in Afghanistan. December, 1989

Light gray or sand color apply on the main green.
It is important to remember that in the Soviet army, camouflage painted on the green paint.
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Posted: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 - 09:34 AM UTC
Dmitriy,
Wow-thanks that's great. Do you know what the slogan on the turret armor is? Some of the pictures I've seen of the Soviet withdrawal show some tanks with slogans on the sides....thanks again Dmitriy !

Rich
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Posted: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 - 12:37 PM UTC
On the armor is written:
"Имени гв. рядового Тырина В.А."
(tank named after a soldier who was killed in Afghanistan)

Picture of better quality.
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