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Chipping and Rust
Bronze4
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Posted: Saturday, January 30, 2010 - 09:45 AM UTC
I didn’t post this on my regular build thread because it really is not about the tank as much as it is about my painting. I really need opinions about the paint chipping and rust. This is my first attempt at this sort of thing.







Do the colors look right? Is the layout okay? Most importantly, is there too much? Really let loose and let me have it, I need the feedback, good or bad.

I still plan on putting some light scratches here and there and also a bit of a metallic sheen on some of the worn away rust spots that are in the high traffic areas.

Thanks for all who answer,
Dave Shaw
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Posted: Saturday, January 30, 2010 - 09:59 AM UTC
Hi Dave

I think your application and technique is excellent.

My only other comment would be that as far as I'm aware armour plate doesn't really rust like other softer metals that some of the other parts are made of and I find the depiction of rust overdone in many models these days.

I'd much rather you replaced the rust streaks with dirt and grime ones. I think that would be far more realistic in my opinion, and if applied with the same skill as you've shown here would be a winner.

Alan
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Posted: Saturday, January 30, 2010 - 10:26 AM UTC
It looks realistic your skills are well advanced,I wish I was that artistic, knowing when to stop is the key, something I have yet to learn.
Bronze4
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Posted: Saturday, January 30, 2010 - 10:32 AM UTC
Good point of view, The biggest thing I DON'T want to do is to over do it. There will be dirt and mud to follow. I have to do this bit first since dirt doesn't rust. If I have to remove some that'll be no problem as the paint is well sealed (as long as I don't use xylene).
MCR
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Posted: Saturday, January 30, 2010 - 11:13 AM UTC
It's nice but way overdone for an operational tank. Anything painted would have to sit in a field, unloved, for years before the rust got that bad.

Others may disagree but I'd say keep the technique but reduce it by 90% and you'd be a lot more "realistic".
You are definitely on the right track though.

Mark
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Posted: Saturday, January 30, 2010 - 11:24 AM UTC
I agree that it is a bit overdone for a tank in service. I think what you've done would likely resemble a vehcile that has been sitting abandoned for a few years. You have done very excellent work though.
Pyromaniac
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Posted: Saturday, January 30, 2010 - 11:52 AM UTC
I'll say this;
For the first few seconds i though i was looking at a reference pic of a surviving vehicle in some yard full of old machinery somewhere, (the lighting threw me a bit). While the effect is very realistic, i would only expect that on an old, non operational vehicle. So maybe one it down a bit. Then again, it might get covered up with the other techniques and not look so out of place.
pzcreations
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Posted: Sunday, January 31, 2010 - 02:59 AM UTC
I agree with the others. It does look fantastic for what it is..but for an in service vehicle it is overdone. the larger spots Id remove or paint over, but perhaps some of the tiny ones Id keep just for 'artistic' look if you wanted it. also, Id like to add your soft edge camo looks perfect! what airbrush you using?
Plasticbattle
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Posted: Sunday, January 31, 2010 - 03:18 AM UTC
Hi Dave. Technique-wise.... I think you’ve hit the nail on the head. They’re very believable on the damaged fenders and around the hatches. On the glacis ... because it’s so clean, they don’t have the realism of the others. Maybe when dirtied up, it’ll be a different opinion. As already mentioned, you’re camo looks particularly nice. Would love to see some more images.
Bronze4
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Posted: Sunday, January 31, 2010 - 05:03 AM UTC
First I would like to thank everyone for their feedback. It helps to get other points of view.

I have toned it down some but not too much as there are more steps to follow. I think that the pictures do give a feel as being abandoned for many years due to a lack of any superficial scratches (scratched paint), bare metal shining through, and even more so, due to the absence of any mud and dirt. Much of the rust showing will be covered up with these following steps. Don't worry though, I know not to use bright silver.

I did lose the rust on the bow gun port (and I really liked how that came out too) and some of the bigger spots. I don’t think it quite has the abandoned feel to it as it did and should pull together nicely now.

Thanks for the comments on the camo. I used a Badger 155, my new personal favorite after fighting an Aztek for so many years.

I will post more pictures as things develop back on my regular build thread.
https://armorama.kitmaker.net/forums/151880&page=1

Thanks again to one and all,
Dave
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