Greetings,
I'm trying to get good pics on the steering gear of the BT-7. I want to do a model with the tracks off and the wheels articulated. The mechanism seems simple enough, looking at the Tamiya parts, a tube that moves left or right from steering inputs and moves bellcranks attached to the inner hubs of the #1 roadwheels. i'm confused by the mounting point of the bellcrank to the hub, as it's in the center over the axle, not to the front or rear, which doesn't seem like it would move the wheel around the pivot point, which i assume is the center of the axle.
Any ideas?
Thanks
Mike
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Posted: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 - 03:08 PM UTC
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Posted: Wednesday, January 12, 2011 - 07:13 AM UTC
Hey, Michael
Can you post a picture to show what exactly you are looking for?
Can you post a picture to show what exactly you are looking for?
geotanker
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Posted: Thursday, January 13, 2011 - 12:24 PM UTC
I'll have to make a drawing, the parts are too small, and I don't have a macro lens.
I'll try and get something done up tonight.
I'll try and get something done up tonight.
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Posted: Thursday, January 13, 2011 - 05:17 PM UTC
Will blueprint of a steering wheel suspension help?
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Posted: Friday, January 14, 2011 - 03:03 AM UTC
yes indeed!
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Posted: Friday, January 14, 2011 - 04:39 AM UTC
cheers
Minsk94
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Posted: Friday, January 14, 2011 - 06:50 AM UTC
To add to what Mauro had posted here are several more images that might help you with that suspension. They are from different modifications of a tank, but it will help to understand how it worked.
BT-2
BT-5
BT-7
The blueprint is much bigger than Armorama alows to show, so to see it in full you will need to right click on the image and click on "View Image" (in Firefox) or "Open image in a new tab" (in Chrome).
BT-2
BT-5
BT-7
The blueprint is much bigger than Armorama alows to show, so to see it in full you will need to right click on the image and click on "View Image" (in Firefox) or "Open image in a new tab" (in Chrome).
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Posted: Friday, January 14, 2011 - 07:09 AM UTC
http://bronetehnika.narod.ru/bt-is/bt-is.html
http://tankimira.ru/country/sssr/ligths/BT-7
You posted stunning references alex
Cheers
http://tankimira.ru/country/sssr/ligths/BT-7
You posted stunning references alex
Cheers
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Posted: Friday, January 14, 2011 - 08:18 AM UTC
This is great stuff guys. Questions regarding the steering system of the BT(-7) pop up often enough that I'm wondering if one of the mods can just make this a sticky?
Minsk94
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Posted: Friday, January 14, 2011 - 06:00 PM UTC
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You posted stunning references alex
Thanks, Mauro!
You got some interesting stuff too. I didn't know about Tank2.ru site. They have some interesting photos.
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Posted: Saturday, January 15, 2011 - 02:01 PM UTC
thanks to all who replied with the pics and diagrams. All it took was a good view at the full size hardware, makes sense now! Tamiya has molded the ends of the #1 roadwheel mounting arm incorrectly apparently, unless they were replicating a later BT-7 as I read that they had eliminated the steering gear; maybe they changed the rounded pivot point to a blocky shaped end?
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Posted: Saturday, January 15, 2011 - 03:16 PM UTC
doh! after looking at the kit again, I can see the reason for the blocky end on the support arm: Tamiya has a poly cap that goes in there.