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Soviet SS-23 Spider
Teaker11
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Posted: Tuesday, June 21, 2011 - 04:06 AM UTC
Good day all I have picked up the Minimanfactory SS-23 Spider (9K714 OKA) Missle launcher while there are lots of pictures out ther I cant seem to find any of the launch bay, including how the missle was powered and data was transfered before launch, were there a cable bus that went to the missle?
thank you
Jim
PS any Russian writeing members if you can give me some search terms I have a russian key board and can look up a search'Thanks
Jacques
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Posted: Tuesday, June 21, 2011 - 07:35 AM UTC
Jim, I hate the fact that you have one on hand and I have to save up my pennies to get it. Rats!

Show off lots of pictures of the kit, please.
talib
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Posted: Tuesday, June 21, 2011 - 08:06 AM UTC
Hello!
Few days ago I received mine Spider and made pictures in museum in Moscow.
Here you can download archive with them
http://files.mail.ru/ZMW10I

Sorry, exterior only and missile. Interior is closed, windows are closed with steel list.
Teaker11
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Posted: Tuesday, June 21, 2011 - 09:40 AM UTC
Thank you for the pictures, that was quite a download , I may start tomorrow and will be posting pictures as I go. I have a picture sent to me by my friend that shows a groupe of cables but the rocket is not in place. But I have plenty to do till I get to that area. The cab is a small model kit on its own. more later
Jim
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Posted: Tuesday, June 21, 2011 - 08:21 PM UTC
strange that spiderfrommars hasn't yet posted, maybe he has some info

sorry the download of you pics has been halted by my firewall for some reason, guess I have to wait untill you or someone else posts some

greetz
talib
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Posted: Wednesday, June 22, 2011 - 07:31 AM UTC
Hi, Jim. Can you post piture you are tellin about?

Also I uploaded pics on photofile, here it is:


















































































































Teaker11
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Posted: Wednesday, June 22, 2011 - 10:49 AM UTC
Melnikov, I had no problem downloading the photos, thanks
here is the only photo I have found that shows cables, but no missile.


Jim
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Posted: Wednesday, June 22, 2011 - 11:01 AM UTC
thanks for sharing Talib !

Jacques
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Posted: Wednesday, June 22, 2011 - 06:06 PM UTC
Jim, i do not think there is a wire harness. A very nice webpage on the "Oka" here
Teaker11
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Posted: Thursday, June 23, 2011 - 03:50 AM UTC
Jacques I am starting to agree with you, unless there was a bus that the missile rode on durning lift off. but this photo shows the misssile used as almost an artillery shot

with a nuke all you have to be is close, but the site that you directed me two does show a guidence system, and there are programing electronics in the cab. I will keep looking
Jim
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Posted: Thursday, June 23, 2011 - 04:15 AM UTC
http://forum.valka.cz/viewtopic.php/t/12619 some nice pics here
Teaker11
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Posted: Thursday, June 23, 2011 - 04:50 AM UTC
Arpad
Thank you for the link, there were pictures that I did not have.
Thanks
Jim
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Posted: Friday, June 24, 2011 - 02:53 AM UTC
Some elements of the "Oka" are still state/trade secrets, so you may not be able to answer your question soon. I am thinking there is a reusable data link with the missile, either wireless or friction, that is used to program the missile. It may also be programed by a hand portable unit as the missile has inertial guidance with active radar for the terminal phase. Far too many questions...

But from the pictures, some of which look like field firing trials, I would say there is no visible wiring bus.
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Posted: Friday, June 24, 2011 - 03:29 AM UTC
At the bottom of Arpad's link is a video from Youtube. At the 2:49 time hack is the best shot yet of the missile before launch.
Teaker11
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Posted: Friday, June 24, 2011 - 04:33 AM UTC
I have to say at this point that there are no cables connected to the rocket prior to launch, so until a picture shows up I am going on with the build, This was an interesting rocket, if I understand the translations I have read and in the move you can see a engine start up, small amount of brown smoke just prior to launch. This was to power ther rocket , so I am going to drop the subject and contuine with the build. Thank you all for the input and pictures they have been a great help.
Jim
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Posted: Friday, June 24, 2011 - 09:46 AM UTC
Good choice and bet of luck. I wish I could be so decisive so soon...seems like I dither over detail questions forever...
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