Hello to all, last week a received this beautiful kit.
Thanks to Mr. Ciolkowiak for his help!
The boxart:
details of the box:
details of the "chaos" in one of the small bags.
detail of the track:
and an "overall-look" of the beast.
comparison with Skif´s BMP-3
More images and progress of the build will follow soon, and the build-process will possibly take some months.
greetings...
Soeren
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Jadar 5Star Models 2S6M Tunguska
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Posted: Friday, October 28, 2011 - 08:14 PM UTC
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Posted: Friday, October 28, 2011 - 10:52 PM UTC
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the build-process will possibly take some months.
Shame on you Soeren !! You should know that as soon as you have finished this one, a plastic model will pop up. So hurry up
My exprience with 5Stars SA6 was not a bad one. You'll find the Part PE parts are a bit stiffer than usual Eduard PE.
Some resin parts may suffer from molds damage. The instructions are not bad but you can download more pictures at Jadar's site. They may help.
I'll follow this one with great interest.
Olivier
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Posted: Saturday, October 29, 2011 - 12:02 AM UTC
Hi Olivier, do you mean the "fake announcemen"t by "bigT" this year?
So if we get a real plastic/ styrene-kit, it should be a great kit since all the years!!!
I´ve waited more than "only 10 years" to get a good kit. of this vehicle. (I also have 2 kits in 1/72 from Military Wheels; one built and one is in package)
If you have MORE! information about future kits.... please let US know!
greetings....
Soeren
PS: I reworkedd more actual photos of my kit. (PE-parts and more)
So if we get a real plastic/ styrene-kit, it should be a great kit since all the years!!!
I´ve waited more than "only 10 years" to get a good kit. of this vehicle. (I also have 2 kits in 1/72 from Military Wheels; one built and one is in package)
If you have MORE! information about future kits.... please let US know!
greetings....
Soeren
PS: I reworkedd more actual photos of my kit. (PE-parts and more)
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Posted: Saturday, October 29, 2011 - 12:18 AM UTC
Looks fine.....Good luck Soeren...I'll follow this....
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Posted: Saturday, October 29, 2011 - 07:04 AM UTC
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If you have MORE! information about future kits.... please let US know!
I wish I had but unfortunately nothing above the horizon !!
I only noticed that as soon as I built an expensive resin kit, the plastic kit hit the shelves within weeks or months ! Some examples are the SA-6 and the Centauro just no name a few.
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Posted: Saturday, October 29, 2011 - 10:12 AM UTC
I built one last year and only remember haveing problems aligning the gun barrels, also a couple of pe were miss labled. But moving last year He hit the ground hard, so I have a replacement in the stash. Good looking kit when done, go to YouTube and watch movies it helps alot
Jim
Jim
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Posted: Tuesday, November 01, 2011 - 08:32 AM UTC
wow kit, saw this beast on YT and this is one fearsome vehicle!
keep us updated!
greetz
keep us updated!
greetz
juge75
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Posted: Tuesday, November 01, 2011 - 05:43 PM UTC
The autocannon can do is upload images if you are not satisfied with the resin components, we have ideas how to upgrade.
Even the 2A28 (M) double-barreled, one tube (outside) per side and is equipped with the projectile initial velocity measurement, in both liquid-cooled tube (similar to the AZP-23), the electrically ignited 30mm munitions.
The tubes infusion cannula or catheter for medical use can prepare, or evergreen rods.
The cooling fluid injection tube or barrel copper wire material, the speedometer is used here in the original.
I seem too small for the fire control radar, compared to the entire tower.
Must be such as 1RL33's (RPK Topol-2), the ZSU-23-4 Shilka, only smaller.
Even the 2A28 (M) double-barreled, one tube (outside) per side and is equipped with the projectile initial velocity measurement, in both liquid-cooled tube (similar to the AZP-23), the electrically ignited 30mm munitions.
The tubes infusion cannula or catheter for medical use can prepare, or evergreen rods.
The cooling fluid injection tube or barrel copper wire material, the speedometer is used here in the original.
I seem too small for the fire control radar, compared to the entire tower.
Must be such as 1RL33's (RPK Topol-2), the ZSU-23-4 Shilka, only smaller.
juge75
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Posted: Tuesday, November 01, 2011 - 05:51 PM UTC
2A38 dimensions:
- Length 3434 mm
- Height 242 mm
- Width 220 mm
1/35
-lenght 98,11mm
-height 6,91mm
-width 6,28mm
Fire control radar: 1RL138.
- Length 3434 mm
- Height 242 mm
- Width 220 mm
1/35
-lenght 98,11mm
-height 6,91mm
-width 6,28mm
Fire control radar: 1RL138.
juge75
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Posted: Tuesday, November 01, 2011 - 06:07 PM UTC
See this photo.
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Posted: Friday, November 04, 2011 - 07:50 AM UTC
Thank you very much for the images! (Gabor?) Which is you first name?
Yes also in my country in some regions we have a special tradition in "naming" persons. (family name at first, then the name of the person)
I know a hungarian person called "Gabor", so I thought it.
But back to topic:
Thank you for the images, these possibly will help me to build the both two-barrelled guns!
Today I know, that these both ones use the "Gast-technique".
That means that each of the 2-barreled guns uses the pressure of each chamber to load the shells into the other barrel. (possibly this is a bad translation)
Okay, I will upoad the next images of the kit as soon as possible.
I didn´t started buiding yet. (I have some more projects )
greatings and thanks for looking...
Soeren
Yes also in my country in some regions we have a special tradition in "naming" persons. (family name at first, then the name of the person)
I know a hungarian person called "Gabor", so I thought it.
But back to topic:
Thank you for the images, these possibly will help me to build the both two-barrelled guns!
Today I know, that these both ones use the "Gast-technique".
That means that each of the 2-barreled guns uses the pressure of each chamber to load the shells into the other barrel. (possibly this is a bad translation)
Okay, I will upoad the next images of the kit as soon as possible.
I didn´t started buiding yet. (I have some more projects )
greatings and thanks for looking...
Soeren
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Posted: Saturday, November 05, 2011 - 10:50 PM UTC
Next batch of images.
Overview of the kit...
metal parts (PE and tow cable)
detail of the PE-parts
gun and missile-containers
greetings...
Soeren
Overview of the kit...
metal parts (PE and tow cable)
detail of the PE-parts
gun and missile-containers
greetings...
Soeren
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Posted: Sunday, November 06, 2011 - 01:24 AM UTC
Familiar style of the building (not just the work of Pawel?).
The chassis and the track links interchangeable Krug, Buk system.
Compare the track and the wheels runing Tank Mania kits, should be equal (in size).
The commander cupola of the ZSU-23-4 Shilka modified version, as well as the optical aiming device.
The chassis and the track links interchangeable Krug, Buk system.
Compare the track and the wheels runing Tank Mania kits, should be equal (in size).
The commander cupola of the ZSU-23-4 Shilka modified version, as well as the optical aiming device.
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Posted: Wednesday, November 16, 2011 - 09:17 AM UTC
Yes Gabor, you´re right.
I also heard, that our polish friend, Pawel, made the master for this kit.
Yes, it´s possible, that the tracks are interchangeable to other kits, but the "Krug" (SA-4 Ganef) is a resin-kit only and the "Buk" (SA-11 Gadfly), one of my dreams, is not available.
Thanks for reading and the input on this tread to all!
greetings...
Soeren
I also heard, that our polish friend, Pawel, made the master for this kit.
Yes, it´s possible, that the tracks are interchangeable to other kits, but the "Krug" (SA-4 Ganef) is a resin-kit only and the "Buk" (SA-11 Gadfly), one of my dreams, is not available.
Thanks for reading and the input on this tread to all!
greetings...
Soeren
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Posted: Monday, December 05, 2011 - 02:17 PM UTC
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I only noticed that as soon as I built an expensive resin kit, the plastic kit hit the shelves within weeks or months ! Some examples are the SA-6 and the Centauro just no name a few.
Hehe Olivier, your thoughts were not bad.
On Trumpeter´s news on cybermodeler I found the japanese version of the german Gepard AA-vehicle.
http://www.cybermodeler.com/news/trumpeter.shtml
It looks a bit like the Tunguska.
But back to topic:
I sorted the parts and made an overview of them and their correctness.
guns and missile-containers
one of the guns is broken, and I will see how to fix that
also one of the track-parts is broken, but this should easily can be fixed using CA-based glue
the "sorting-process" nearly finished
and finished
I used some small bags for some different parts. Thats a good solution here.
Some parts will need small changes, because they´re bent.
greetings...
Soeren
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Posted: Monday, December 05, 2011 - 02:51 PM UTC
Soeren,
Unfortunately I see lacks at траков and skating rinks, aren't similar to the real. Chassis at Tunguska (ГМ-352), Tor (ГМ-355) are identical. The beech (ГМ-577,569, etc.) makes related with them траки and skating rinks. The circle was under construction on other type of the chassis and skating rinks and caterpillars at it others though from apart and are similar.
Unfortunately I see lacks at траков and skating rinks, aren't similar to the real. Chassis at Tunguska (ГМ-352), Tor (ГМ-355) are identical. The beech (ГМ-577,569, etc.) makes related with them траки and skating rinks. The circle was under construction on other type of the chassis and skating rinks and caterpillars at it others though from apart and are similar.
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Posted: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 - 10:03 AM UTC
The Sa-4 (2P24 and 1S32), Su-100P, Acacia (etc) running wheels and tracks 100% compatible the Buk,Tunguska and early Tor (Tuguska chassis verzion).
The Tor (early) and Tunguska be lighter track links "tooth".
The Tor (early) and Tunguska be lighter track links "tooth".
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Posted: Thursday, January 19, 2012 - 09:32 AM UTC
Yet a few things worth seeing in the models, and the original vehicle:
First, there is no chain tensioner tire tread, in reality, there still sets the standard rubber wheel provides.
Second defective fire control radar of the size (too small), and base.
Third , the front section of the tower was not well prepared, the vertical armor plate.
In reality, an angle (tilts backwards) and for the trapezoidal panels.
I did the modified components.
First, there is no chain tensioner tire tread, in reality, there still sets the standard rubber wheel provides.
Second defective fire control radar of the size (too small), and base.
Third , the front section of the tower was not well prepared, the vertical armor plate.
In reality, an angle (tilts backwards) and for the trapezoidal panels.
I did the modified components.
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Posted: Thursday, January 19, 2012 - 12:37 PM UTC
Don't cut off a turret. It and so short it should be increased. Here my not finished work.
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Posted: Thursday, January 19, 2012 - 03:30 PM UTC
Maybe one day someone will make one of these in plastic!
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Posted: Friday, January 20, 2012 - 05:32 AM UTC
Wow, these images showing good improving-skills!
I don´t have them.
Good work!
thanks for showing, Oleg!
I don´t have them.
Good work!
thanks for showing, Oleg!
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Posted: Saturday, January 21, 2012 - 04:35 AM UTC
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Don't cut off a turret. It and so short it should be increased. Here my not finished work.
Hi Oleg!
I was waiting so long for images of your work. Now I can say it is the best rework of old jadar(Pawel) kit.
Hope more progress will be soon.
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Posted: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 - 05:14 AM UTC
Corrected Fire control radar, 2A38 30mm Autocannons and 9M311M Missiles for tunguska.
Thank You Alexer!
Thank You Alexer!
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Posted: Thursday, January 26, 2012 - 12:26 PM UTC
Gabor
Great job on the Barrels,
Jim
Great job on the Barrels,
Jim
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Posted: Thursday, January 26, 2012 - 11:01 PM UTC
Thank you, Jim! :-)