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Burned out/destroyed Tank how to model it?
HermannB
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Posted: Sunday, February 19, 2012 - 03:38 AM UTC
Hi all.

I stumbled over AFV Clubs T-34/85 kit with interior and had the idea to build the kit as destroyed NKPA tank from Korean War.
I guess that when a tank is hit by AT or Bazooka rounds and the turret blows of, not much is left from the interior.
Are there any photographic references of burned out T-34/85 tanks, no matter if Korea, WW2 or Mid East?

TIA
Hans-Hermann
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Posted: Sunday, February 19, 2012 - 04:02 AM UTC
Hi, Use Google for T-34 wrecks pic, destroyed t 34 pic, blown t 34 pic, interior etc








This is a modern video of old t-34 wrecks but still shows interior damage

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVFI9-24Gr0
Spiderfrommars
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Posted: Sunday, February 19, 2012 - 05:12 AM UTC
Hi Hans

Here some pics taken during the korean war (Posted by Dmitry68)

http://nnm.ru/blogs/Dmitry68/t-34_poslevoennye_bitvy/

http://foto.mail.ru/mail/warlord109/1388

(unfortunately i can't uderstand who has posted them . However I thank him a lot)

There are many pics of wrecked T-34/85 in ww2. You could take inspiration from them

Here you have more than seven hundred otiginal pics of the T-34/85

http://photo.qip.ru/users/bj85/150675971/

here five hundred about the T-34/85 Formovo plant # 112

http://photo.qip.ru/users/bj85/150673414/

Thanks a Million to "BJ85" for sharing these pics!

Here more pics which could be useful for your purposes

http://army.lv/ru/t-34-85/foto/631/266#info

To find more references try to use as keyword for your researches the words

Т-34/85 корейской войны

(T--34/85 korean war written in Russian)

I hope this will help you

Cheers
Adamskii
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Posted: Sunday, February 19, 2012 - 05:57 AM UTC
Nice challenge. Certainly a burned out tank is one of the mother of all challenges when modelling.

Being technically accurate will certainly win some accolade, but painting / weathering a burned out vehicle is where the challenge really lies.
If I may offer an opinion - investigate as much time into painting and weathering execution as you do historical/ technical accuracy. As one without the other leaves an obvious uneasy look about the completed model.

Just my 2 cents but its hard to appreciate all the work done with an interior in a destroed vehicle if its just painted black with a bit or rusty brown thrown in. A destroyed burned out interior is an art that is to be much respected to be done properly.

Hope you succeed in your challenge. You don't see many burned out wrecks modelled at all - very few and far between, and good quality ones are even rarer.

Adam
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Posted: Sunday, February 19, 2012 - 07:00 AM UTC

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Nice challenge. Certainly a burned out tank is one of the mother of all challenges when modelling.

Being technically accurate will certainly win some accolade, but painting / weathering a burned out vehicle is where the challenge really lies.
If I may offer an opinion - investigate as much time into painting and weathering execution as you do historical/ technical accuracy. As one without the other leaves an obvious uneasy look about the completed model.

Just my 2 cents but its hard to appreciate all the work done with an interior in a destroed vehicle if its just painted black with a bit or rusty brown thrown in. A destroyed burned out interior is an art that is to be much respected to be done properly.

Hope you succeed in your challenge. You don't see many burned out wrecks modelled at all - very few and far between, and good quality ones are even rarer.

Adam


I agree

It could be useful looking at the Rob Ferreira's sites

http://www.scratchmod.com/Home.php

http://www.youtube.com/user/mrscratchmod

He is the master for this kind of jobs

Another link which I can advise, is the "Rusty knocked out and/or abandoned Vehicles" section of Mig Production forum.

http://www.migproductionsforums.com/phpBB3/viewforum.php?f=26&sid=bd6fa4d5c06a3d1ec8fdf0c9148a3b0f

Here the best modellers show their wrecked vehicles and lots of techniques about how to depict them

Cheers
Adamskii
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Posted: Sunday, February 19, 2012 - 02:50 PM UTC
Good references there !

I am glad you agree with my thoughts and sentiments.

Adam
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