hay all i'm planing my next build and i thought that at one time i had heard that the T-34 were used during this conflict if any one can help with pic or info that would be great thanks dave

There are a lot of information on the Net:
http://www.aviarmor.net/tww2/tanks/ussr/t-34-85_5.htm - click the images on page bottom;
http://www.armyvehicles.dk/about.htm
http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?9471-Ever-wondered-how-many-tanks-soldiers-and-fighters-EU-have/page3
https://armorama.kitmaker.net/forums/154610
http://www.rhli.ca/deploy/aug6msg.html
http://www.flickr.com/photos/71153261@N00/4130425218
http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?126915-Destroyed-tanks/page25
and so on - try the Google !

Hi Dave

Me too I've been building a T-34/85 and I'm tempting to do a Croat or Serbian exemplar

here a Croat article

http://www.hrcappuccino.org/articles/misc/VerzijeT-34.htm

If you use google traslator you can understand the article in a decent way. It exeplains what were the different T-34 versions employed during the war

If you need other pics please send me a PM with your e-mail adress

cheers

Serbian with rubber extra armours



Croat



Serbian captured by Croat (actually all the Croat tanks were captured exemplars)



Serbian (note the DSHKM Machine gun)



Some other links

http://www.com-central.net/index.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=11719&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=

http://www.achtungpanzer.com/serbian-t-3485.htm

A walkaround

http://www.hrcappuccino.org/articles/okohodac/T-34B.htm

Some other pics

Serbian T-34/85 (plant # 183 flatened turret) knocked down during the Vucovar siege in 1991. Serial number 18015 with a big "6" and a hand painted red slogan on the turret which unfortuanately I can't read ("JNA...????")







Another Serbian exemplar. Is likely to be a T-34/85 made in #112 factory with ZIS S-53 gun collar. Note the mixed wheels.



Croat Exemplar. It looks like a 1944 eexemplar made in factory 112 with S-53 gun collar



Other Serbian exemplars damnageded by the Croats

As alway Mauro i can count on you to came thought the pic's are great but i guess what i'm looking for is the more obscure applique armor that hey might have used like the rubber mats that were added
thanks dave

And you, as always, are welcome Dave

As I told you, if you need other infos , let me know

Cheers

PS. Tank with rubber armours is likely to be a tank employed during the Kosovo war

The other word is "JUGOSLAVIJA" (= Yugoslavia in Serbo-Croat )

Thanks for the pics Mauro.

Frenchy

Thanks a million Frenchy!

i've been building a JNA t-55 but I was tempted to do also this "old guy". Now I know how

Just a wee side note- I've seen some Croat T-34's with white sandbags attached to the side of the hull and turret:





(According to Yves Debay and James Hill the tank above, 'Malo Bijelo', survived two AT-3 Sagger hits and was said to have 'destroyed two Praguas one truck and another Serbian tank.' This is all borne out with a clear color photo of the tank, in the Concord book The Balkans on Fire: Nightmare in Yugoslavia which contains some great T-34 photos and info on their use. Interestingly, in Dubrovnik where the Malo Bijelo was used, the Dubrovnik Brigade were using an old M36 Jackson!)

Here's another photo of some of the rubber type armor from the rear:



And here's one, a Serbian tank, that could possibly be using steel applique armor (it looks more rigid than rubber to my eye):



And thanks to Mauro and Eduard for all the pics and info, some interesting stuff there.

thanks all for the info and some great pic
dave

At the top of Mauro's picture posts there is a T34 with Belaj Bager on the turret. Is the tank in the background an M10 ?
Mauro thanks for the pictures !

it looks to be the three one down right
dave

Judging by the profile I would say that is an M36B2.

As Karl rightly said Is most likely to be a M-36







http://www.oklop.net23.net/m36/m-36.HTM

During the war , Serbian were forced to employed all the tanks which they had. Some of them were WW2 machines Futhermore Yugoslav was a "Non aligned country" so some of their weapon were American

Serbian employed also:

M-36 and M-18 Hellcat









M-47 (rarely)





http://www.oklop.net23.net/m-47/PATON.HTM

Sherman (rarely)




Su-85 (just one exemplar seen in Bosnia)





There were also some incredibly ingenious field modification, such for exemlpe

T-55 hull + Hellcat turret



M-18 motorized with civilian truck engines








Here you are some other T-34 pics which I've dowloaded

Croat "PAS" T-34 rear view



Serbian T-34 in Mostar



T-34 knocked down in Bosnia (1996)

I love these tanks! But why did they have to put roof armor on the turrets of their M-36s! I really wish they hadn't done that. I wonder if they all have it?

All them had the armoured roof. It was a modification on M-36 done by Yugoslav army.

So why? Well...during the WW2 were not employed anti tank helicopters, so armoured roof wasn't necessary

According to Sherman register site the Yugoslav Army was supplied with the M36, M36B1 and M36B2 90 mm GMC. Before being transferred, the M36's were rebuilt and many if not all were retrofitted with the M3A1 90 mm Gun with bore evacuator (as used on the M26A1 and the M46 Medium Tanks). Many of the ex-Yugoslav M36s currently preserved have the M3A1 gun, but with the bore evacuator removed

During the Yugoslav civil war, the media showed several M36s in use by the Croatian National Guard and an M36B1 abandoned JNA (Jugoslovenska Narodna Armija, Yugoslav People's Army). M18 tank destroyers could also be seen in action.

The Yugoslav Army retrofitted their M36s with the V12 diesel engine from the Soviet T55 tank. The conversion was done somewhere during the 1970s.
This photo shows the rear of the hull. Clearly visible is the cut- out from the upper hull overhang and the extended lower hull to accommodate the V12 diesel engine.



Here some other pics of some exemplars preserved in a Slovenian museum









Here another pic of a JNA t-34B provided with a dozer blade of a BTU-55

Thanks guys for setting me straight. What a collection of WWII armour ! Lots of ideas in those pictures!
Have a great weekend all !

Yes, there are lots of inspirations
One of these days I'd like to reproduce this beast



Have a great week end too !

Mauro- those pics and info = AWESOME!

Nevermind... picture already posted by Mauro...
Still, I think the source might be new: http://www.flickr.com/photos/16498755@N07/sets/72157624856540264/ LOTS of good AFV pictures including many of vehicles from the Balkans.

Great thread. Thx everyone!


/E

Yes, I've found many of my pics in that site.
I thanks a lot him to have posted!

Macro thanks got the e-mail out standing
Dave

I'm glad you've got it!

Now i'm waiting for your Bosnian T-34

cheers

Some other interesting pics

Serbian t-34. Note the 3-tones camo and the different postition of the turret handles. On the top of the turret is also visible the MG support







Differnt camo schemes seen in Bosnia...Some of them seem to give the best occasion to experiment the hairspray techinque






(note on the background the post war T-34/85)





Other Serbian exemplars




(note the SFOR patrol car)



Here you are t-34s belonged to a Chetnik militia. Note the skull and cross bones symbol (which is depicted on the Chetnik black flag) and the fascist celtic cross. Tanks are provided with rubber extra armours



cheers

PICS HAS BEEN POSTED ONLY FOR DISCUSSION PURPOSES

I've found another image of a Serbian T-34 with rubber armors