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Yugoslav Sherman
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Posted: Sunday, January 13, 2013 - 12:54 AM UTC
Parallel with the Jimmy I started a second project. It's an Yugoslav Sherman ( version M4A3E4 ) which is now on display in Muzej Vovodine, Novi Sad, Serbia. I wish to thank Mr. Ivan Kukurov who made it possible for me to make the walk-around which I will use during the build of this modell. I also wish to thank Mr Darko Mladenović who give me his model so I can build it, to Mr Nenad Blagojević who give me lot's of information's about Yugoslav Sherman's and to Mr. Zoran Sivčev who helped me to make the pictures and he also made a lot of pictures which I will use during the build. Than you once again !

This Sherman is also one of the Oddball's Sherman's in the Kelly's Heroes.....



The model :



The start of the build :


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Posted: Monday, January 21, 2013 - 12:12 AM UTC
Progress on the Sherman, the rear almost finished with detailing :



The start of the diorama, this time the start on the wall :


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Posted: Monday, January 21, 2013 - 01:32 AM UTC
Very interesting subject. Do you plan on weathering it in the same light or do you want to make it as it was when it was in its prime?
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Posted: Monday, January 21, 2013 - 01:54 AM UTC
Same as on the first picture, the present look
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Posted: Wednesday, January 23, 2013 - 09:49 AM UTC
This time I worked on the walls a bit :



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Posted: Sunday, February 10, 2013 - 11:07 AM UTC
The side door will be opened so I started the works :



Still detailing up the rear :



The new tow cable :



The all new front mud guards :




I was building the diorama also, first I finished the shorter wall.

The metal door :



The installation for air conditioner :



The air conditioner :




And completed :



And I started the longer wall :

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Posted: Sunday, February 10, 2013 - 11:30 PM UTC
This is fantastic work- I love the progress with the A/C unit and the graffitti on the wall.
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Posted: Sunday, March 24, 2013 - 04:58 AM UTC
HI ! Here is some proress. I worked on the diorama, started to prepear the terrain and I made the fence. It was made from wire, all connecting are soldered, the chain on the " small door " is from aber leftovers....

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Posted: Sunday, March 24, 2013 - 05:45 AM UTC
All this fine detail work puts my 1/16 "Oddball" Sherman to shame!

I'll be keeping an eye on this one!











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Posted: Sunday, March 24, 2013 - 10:29 AM UTC
HI Jeff !

As I said on the beginning this is one of Odball's shermans ! Kelly's heroes was filmed in Yugoslavia and they used Shermans from the JNA ( Jugoslovenska Narodna Armija - Yugoslavian People's Army )and this is one of them, don't know which one exactly, but one of them for sure !
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Posted: Sunday, March 24, 2013 - 12:28 PM UTC
maybe this one? it's without front mud guards.. unless it lost them later..
i'm not sherman expert.. are those 2 different types of front mud guards or same with extensions?


2 vs 1
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g169/ncc1984/screencap644.jpg
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Posted: Sunday, March 24, 2013 - 02:23 PM UTC

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maybe this one? it's without front mud guards.. unless it lost them later..
i'm not sherman expert.. are those 2 different types of front mud guards or same with extensions?


2 vs 1
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g169/ncc1984/screencap644.jpg



those are oddballs shermans from the movie kelly's heros
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Posted: Sunday, March 24, 2013 - 09:54 PM UTC
sorry, i'm not sure i get your point...
modellius
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Posted: Sunday, March 24, 2013 - 11:13 PM UTC
Most probably the one with extended mud guard becose on mine ( the one I'm making ) there is a plate added on the mud guard which I didn't made yet....
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Posted: Monday, March 25, 2013 - 01:38 AM UTC

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those are oddballs shermans from the movie kelly's heros




duh


You mean like this?












Sorry if I am tooting my own horn.










~ Jeff
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Posted: Monday, March 25, 2013 - 02:45 AM UTC
You made it right, that's it. On the side you have two rows of holes for the side armour, only on the first section is one row :



And most probably you have to modify your Sherman, all the Yugoslav sherman's ( as so the ones used in the movie too ) are M4A3E4, if you look at the first picture I posted, you will notice the 76mm cannon, so what you need is the 76mm M1A1C barrel with muzzle protector ring and an early commanders hatch. If you need more info or pics just say, glad to help
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Posted: Monday, March 25, 2013 - 08:01 AM UTC
There's only one row of holes... look again.

And there is a thread protector on the barrel, but I haven't shown that because I was focusing on the fender. So I believe you were guessing.

Last but not least, it was built using the 'movie' tank, so it does not have a split hatch.

Trust me, careful research was made. All I have left is to install the correct tracks. Did you notice that?









~ Jeff
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Posted: Monday, March 25, 2013 - 08:22 AM UTC
At first, I didn't attend to quess anything, I din't said that your work is bad, I just simply wanted to give you " first hand information " becouse I made about 200 or more photos of this sherman with all the modifications in detail....But if you don't want them it's fine by me........

All the photos of the sherman I build ( again, one of the Odball's Shermans )was taken by me personally, btw I'm from Serbia so.......

About the holes on the side you tell me how many row of holes is this :



This is the proper hatch for those Shermans :

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Posted: Monday, March 25, 2013 - 08:46 AM UTC
we have one of those E4 in Velenje(SLO)
but i never found any info about it... who knows.. maybe it's one of oddballs (=


how did you find out that your sherman was used in movie?
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Posted: Monday, March 25, 2013 - 09:56 AM UTC
The menagment of the museum where this Sherman is told me when I was there to ask the promission to take a detail photo walk around. As you can see on my diorama there is a gate which is locked so you can't go near the sherman but they was so kind to open the gate for me so I took the pictures
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Posted: Monday, March 25, 2013 - 10:13 AM UTC

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At first, I didn't attend to quess anything, I din't said that your work is bad, I just simply wanted to give you " first hand information " becouse I made about 200 or more photos of this sherman with all the modifications in detail....But if you don't want them it's fine by me........

All the photos of the sherman I build ( again, one of the Odball's Shermans )was taken by me personally, btw I'm from Serbia so.......

About the holes on the side you tell me how many row of holes is this :



This is the proper hatch for those Shermans :





The problem is you're looking at one tank and I am looking at another.



So, only one row of "holes" and I am using the correct hatch.

So good luck on your build.










~ Jeff
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Posted: Monday, March 25, 2013 - 10:17 AM UTC
Thanks....
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Posted: Sunday, March 31, 2013 - 07:35 AM UTC
Well, the hull is detailed up, now I'm starting to work on the turret

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Posted: Thursday, April 11, 2013 - 08:59 PM UTC
Finished the last phase before painting. Detailed up turret, all scratch of course :



And the turret and the hull together :

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Posted: Friday, April 12, 2013 - 08:00 AM UTC
opasan!
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