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Plan B?
velotrain
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Posted: Sunday, March 31, 2013 - 08:47 PM UTC
Although I still like the proto German RR bridging scene I thought I would do, I'm having doubts about completing it, especially as I haven't tried painting figures yet. I think I'll change horses mid-stream, although it is much more the rider's than the horse's fault. No guarantees for completion of this either, but I think it's a bit closer to my comfort zone - although, I've never built a plane.

The new thought is a what-if scenario, with a B-25 split over three railroad cars for shipment. The story line is that strong storms during the winter of 1943 (or 1944) caused reconsideration of using ferry flights, and transportation by train to Maritime (or other) final assembly points was tried. Or perhaps the rail cars / components could be loaded on ships, as was done with short-range planes.



As you can see, I have opened the box to start considering component positioning. The fuselage halves are tacked together and temporarily mounted. The photo shows a 52' flat car actually built in the 50's, but as is clear a more prototypical 40' car just won't work for the fuselage - which may be shipped sans nose, or perhaps with slight overhang at the rear.

I am hoping to use one or two 40' cars, based on how much space it takes to stowe all the component sections; I do have two more 52' cars on hand if it turns out that I need to use all of them. I still haven't decided if the engines and nacelles will be fitted to the wings, or moved separately.

I have no idea if it was ever done or not, but I found a drawing for loading a Messerschmitt (admittedly much smaller) on a flat car.



Also, much later in time but even more massive, Boeing ships assembled 727 fuselages from it's Wichita plant by rail to the Renton, WA facility for completion. You can easily find many youtube videos of this operation.



I have a couple of painting questions. I found a build log for a HK 1:32 Mitchell, and the fellow building it used several layers of aluminum before olive drab. I got the sense that this was to create a more metal-like appearance, but maybe that is more critical on the 1:32 model with all the rivet detail. Any suggestions for a primer color?

Also, he used an Edourd mask set for painting the clear pieces - which this plane has a lot of. I haven't checked if they make a 1:48 set, but was wondering if a thin marker would work for this? Does anybody make olive drab markers?

Charles


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Posted: Sunday, March 31, 2013 - 09:11 PM UTC
This should no be listed under "Campaigns".
velotrain
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Posted: Sunday, March 31, 2013 - 09:33 PM UTC
Wouldn't that be the campaign owner's decision?
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Posted: Sunday, March 31, 2013 - 10:05 PM UTC

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Wouldn't that be the campaign owner's decision?



you will also have to change the markings on the the flat cars to make it a civilian railroad flat car
PantherF
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Posted: Sunday, March 31, 2013 - 11:10 PM UTC
Since there are no Operational Overviews or Rules and Regulations spelled out here this cannot be a Campaign Proposal so it should be removed from this area.

Any moderator help us here? The Campaigns Administrator hasn't been around since the 27th and still hasn't moved an approved Campaign to the top so we need a little help here cleaning this up.

'Tanks'!










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Posted: Monday, April 01, 2013 - 02:57 AM UTC
Charles, It looks like an interesting project. Which campaign is this intended for? What-If 3? It needs to be posted in that campaign's thread, not out here in the open. If it's not part of an active campaign then it probably should be posted elsewhere.

You'll also need to enlist in the What-If 3 Campaign.

velotrain
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Posted: Monday, April 01, 2013 - 09:29 AM UTC
Alex - thanks for the voice of reason. I'm enlisted in 1:48 #3 and thought that's where I had posted; this explains the frayed nerves. I'll re-post there, but someone else will need to remove the offending post - sorry 'bout that. Charles
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