Ola Guys and gals
I have been building this for the Postcard Challenge but I wanted to show it in a separate builtlog as well. I kinda promised that in the review as well. So here goes.
For the postcard challenge I wanted to make it as a derelict vehicle that has been looted of usefull parts and pushed aside in a corner of a factory yard. But for that I first had to start building the little vehicle.
Starting off with the majority of Page 1 which deals mostly with the building of the engine and transmission.
This is a kit on it's own with quite a lot of small parts but when it is all assembled it really looks good.
Page 2 deals with the Hull tub, placement of the engine, radiator, radiator cowling with louvred grill, fueltank, the open firewall behind the drivers compartiment, fenders chairs etc. Also in this step you add the driving levers. I left these out because I replaced them with the levers and pedals from the PE update set from LZ models.
From this point on I kinda stopped follow the chronological order of construction from the Instructionsheet since I had to make several subassemblies that allow me to paint the interior first. One of the first steps was to add strips with holes in it to the location that the glacisplate was bolted on. I also cut off the bolt detail on the glacis and drilled them out
As you can see I also started on the drivers cabin. In the instruction sheets this is started on Page 5 and 6. It is a bit of a puzzle since the cabin is made up of several panels. And it matters a great deal Which panel has the corner keep this in mind otherwise the cabin will have ill fit. Best course of action is to glue the roof flush with the edge of the front glacis with the MG in it and then mount the sideplates of the cabin with the visionports.
A view on the PE Pedals and levers from LZ models
Leaving off the glacisplate gives a huge view inside the vehicle.
Overview of the major subassemblies. This allows me to paint the interior first. Mask everything, close it up again. And paint the exterior. You can also see I added stuff from page 3 and 4 dealing with the engine access Hatches, the Backplate of the vehicle with the storagebox (left open) the crew benches, the towhook and the exhaust system. If you built de Mod 37 of this kit kindly ignore the top left drawing of page 4 that are parts for the Mod38 Page 5 starts with that only bigger and with partnumbers added to it. It shows parts for the armored engine intake cover that the Mod 37 does not have.
Then it was time to start working on several details that are explained on different pages of the instruction sheet. I added all the visionports in the driverscabin minus one that was looted. I drilled out a couple of the dials in the instrument panel. Again looted. Some wires will be hanging out them. At some point one of the idlers was taken off So I scratched a bare axle. And I started on the running gear itself. The vehicle has 4 pairs of roadwheels each consisting of 15 parts. Some of them very tiny.
And this is where it stands as of now. 90% of the parts have been added. Only the tracks need to be done but it is still in subassemblies, I can start painting the interior. More on that later
It will be built as a russian vehicle. Which means I actually had to re-do the fenders but it will almost be parked against a wall so it will not be very visible. Decided to go for momentum instead and keep on building.
With friendly greetz
Robert Blokker
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T-20 Komsomoletz Mod. 37
Posted: Sunday, July 21, 2013 - 02:52 AM UTC
Posted: Sunday, July 21, 2013 - 06:38 PM UTC
Got a little bit more done yesterday.
Got the preshade down
And sprayed the Primer red for the engine bay and vehicle floor
And to finish off the Sunday business I masked off the drivers compartiment for the coat of white.
More to follow soon.
Got the preshade down
And sprayed the Primer red for the engine bay and vehicle floor
And to finish off the Sunday business I masked off the drivers compartiment for the coat of white.
More to follow soon.
Posted: Sunday, July 21, 2013 - 11:23 PM UTC
Great start Robert. Have been following your progress on FB and am interested in how you tackle spraying the interior. I am at that stage with mines as well, but its been stopped for a few weeks with vacation and few other niggles since then.
Posted: Sunday, July 21, 2013 - 11:32 PM UTC
@ Frank
Thanks for your reply. And thanks for the compliments.
As for the interior that is a bit of guessing at my part. Since I have no period soviet sources that show any hint of which part had which color. There is the finnish preserved one but since it is restored I'm not really trusting the colors. From pictures in my reference material I got the idea that the inside of the drivers compartment was white. For all the other little details I try to follow how the soviets painted all their other vehicle interiors. I think that is the safest way. It probably did not differ all that much from vehicle to vehicle.
Thanks for your reply. And thanks for the compliments.
As for the interior that is a bit of guessing at my part. Since I have no period soviet sources that show any hint of which part had which color. There is the finnish preserved one but since it is restored I'm not really trusting the colors. From pictures in my reference material I got the idea that the inside of the drivers compartment was white. For all the other little details I try to follow how the soviets painted all their other vehicle interiors. I think that is the safest way. It probably did not differ all that much from vehicle to vehicle.
PantherF
Indiana, United States
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Posted: Sunday, July 21, 2013 - 11:47 PM UTC
This IS an interesting build and without going to the Campaign thread, is this the Mirror Models kit?
Looks like it's as small as regular vehicles in 1/72 but think it would be neat to check out what else they offer too.
Your work is clean & amazingly small and I like it! Thanks for showing us this separately!
Jeff
Looks like it's as small as regular vehicles in 1/72 but think it would be neat to check out what else they offer too.
Your work is clean & amazingly small and I like it! Thanks for showing us this separately!
Jeff
Posted: Sunday, July 21, 2013 - 11:54 PM UTC
Ola Jeff
Thanks for the reply and the kind words.
The brand of the kit is Mirror Models. If this kit is a benchmark for all their other releases they should be very good. And yes the vehicle is very small. Lengthwise it is just under 10 cm. And it has a huge load of small parts. The plastic luckily is quite resillient which was just as well as that resulted in not much in the way of breaking parts. I really liked building this kit and now comes the task of not screwing it up with my painting antics
Thanks for the reply and the kind words.
The brand of the kit is Mirror Models. If this kit is a benchmark for all their other releases they should be very good. And yes the vehicle is very small. Lengthwise it is just under 10 cm. And it has a huge load of small parts. The plastic luckily is quite resillient which was just as well as that resulted in not much in the way of breaking parts. I really liked building this kit and now comes the task of not screwing it up with my painting antics
Posted: Wednesday, July 24, 2013 - 12:46 AM UTC
Ola Guys
Another update... The white has been flung. Oh white! White! Glorious white!! Airbrushed the whole drivers cabin in a nice white color. Now it is on to painting that engine and transmission, Doing a whole lot of detailpainting and weathering then it can get closed off and from that point it will be green. So far I'm pretty satisfied how it turns out. The preshade of the interior might not be so apparent in the pictures but that has mostly to do with the lighting from above which makes it dissapear. Because in the evil real world it is there.
As usual looking forward to any kind of feedback.
With friendly greetz
Robert Blokker
Another update... The white has been flung. Oh white! White! Glorious white!! Airbrushed the whole drivers cabin in a nice white color. Now it is on to painting that engine and transmission, Doing a whole lot of detailpainting and weathering then it can get closed off and from that point it will be green. So far I'm pretty satisfied how it turns out. The preshade of the interior might not be so apparent in the pictures but that has mostly to do with the lighting from above which makes it dissapear. Because in the evil real world it is there.
As usual looking forward to any kind of feedback.
With friendly greetz
Robert Blokker
Posted: Saturday, August 03, 2013 - 12:23 AM UTC
Onwards with this dashing monologue!!
I have started the weathering on the interior. Since it is meant to be a derelict vehicle somewhere on a backyard of a factory-yard it meant I had to add some chipping and ruststreaks. I have kept it to a minimum but it looks pretty good I think. Engine is nearly finished as well I only need to paint the exhaustmanifold on the side of it and then on to weathering the engine as well.
Ok first off Pinwashing and Chipping
Then the rust and dust krept in
And finally how the complete interior looks with the chairs added and the firewall and engine and transmission.
I also painted the bottom hull, and the backside of the suspension which I glued in place because those areas will be very hard to reach once they are in place.
More to follow soon
With friendly greetz
Robert Blokker
I have started the weathering on the interior. Since it is meant to be a derelict vehicle somewhere on a backyard of a factory-yard it meant I had to add some chipping and ruststreaks. I have kept it to a minimum but it looks pretty good I think. Engine is nearly finished as well I only need to paint the exhaustmanifold on the side of it and then on to weathering the engine as well.
Ok first off Pinwashing and Chipping
Then the rust and dust krept in
And finally how the complete interior looks with the chairs added and the firewall and engine and transmission.
I also painted the bottom hull, and the backside of the suspension which I glued in place because those areas will be very hard to reach once they are in place.
More to follow soon
With friendly greetz
Robert Blokker
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Wojewodztwo Slaskie, Poland
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Posted: Saturday, August 03, 2013 - 12:51 AM UTC
Hello Robert,
Promises to be sensational, I love weathering inside the hull.
Cheers
Paweł
Promises to be sensational, I love weathering inside the hull.
Cheers
Paweł
Posted: Saturday, August 03, 2013 - 05:01 AM UTC
Ola Paweł
Thank you for your kind compliments really appreciated. It starts to look like something.
Thank you for your kind compliments really appreciated. It starts to look like something.
Posted: Saturday, August 03, 2013 - 05:03 AM UTC
Robert,
Looks great! What is your opinion on the LZ P/E set? I went with just what was in the box but have wondered if I may have missed the mark. I really like your choice of interior colors, I never found anything either and just went with some guesswork, hopefully educated guesswork,but guesswork nonetheless. I assume you are saving the trailer for another day?
Cheers,
Rick
Looks great! What is your opinion on the LZ P/E set? I went with just what was in the box but have wondered if I may have missed the mark. I really like your choice of interior colors, I never found anything either and just went with some guesswork, hopefully educated guesswork,but guesswork nonetheless. I assume you are saving the trailer for another day?
Cheers,
Rick
Posted: Saturday, August 03, 2013 - 12:04 PM UTC
Ola Rick.
Well as you have found out the kit already is pretty complete. I think the LZ models PE set mostly adds to the T-20 if you built the mod 38 since it gives you the grilles that were around the armored radiator cover. The steering levers are a bit more to scale then the plastic levers. But that is something that is not that well visible from the top hatches. The breakpedals will not be visible at all if you built it completely closed off. They are only visible if you built this vehicle like I did with the glacisplate left off.
Yeah not much is known on interior colors. Maybe one day this will come to the surface. But I have the tankograd book on soviet tractors and I have a Russian publication that Completely deals with the T-20. And neither of those give much clues in that direction. So I filled it in this way.
The trailer will be used for another project. It doesn't fit with the T-20 on postcard.. That trailer is also a brilliant little vehicle but as of now I have no clue yet how I'm going to use it.
Well as you have found out the kit already is pretty complete. I think the LZ models PE set mostly adds to the T-20 if you built the mod 38 since it gives you the grilles that were around the armored radiator cover. The steering levers are a bit more to scale then the plastic levers. But that is something that is not that well visible from the top hatches. The breakpedals will not be visible at all if you built it completely closed off. They are only visible if you built this vehicle like I did with the glacisplate left off.
Yeah not much is known on interior colors. Maybe one day this will come to the surface. But I have the tankograd book on soviet tractors and I have a Russian publication that Completely deals with the T-20. And neither of those give much clues in that direction. So I filled it in this way.
The trailer will be used for another project. It doesn't fit with the T-20 on postcard.. That trailer is also a brilliant little vehicle but as of now I have no clue yet how I'm going to use it.
Posted: Thursday, August 08, 2013 - 11:55 PM UTC
So this will be the last picture of this vehicles interior. I added a bunch of discarded rubbish in it. And now it is time to close the vehicle off and start flinging some green paint around.
Posted: Tuesday, August 13, 2013 - 02:24 AM UTC
I have abother 1 pic update. I glued the whole thing shut and masked where neccesary. Then I flung several shades of green at it with a bit of buff mixed into the last layer for the faded effect. this was the result afterwards
I will post some better pics of that this evening.
With friendly greetz
Robert
I will post some better pics of that this evening.
With friendly greetz
Robert
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Posted: Tuesday, August 13, 2013 - 03:33 AM UTC
Beautyfull, Robert!
I almost bought this one until I saw some pictures of the real one (empty and in full action).
The suspension in this kit are to high.
When you look at photo´s you see the springleafs horizontal and not bend downward like in the kit.
Anyways, I love the way you handle this little bug.
Keep up the good work!
I almost bought this one until I saw some pictures of the real one (empty and in full action).
The suspension in this kit are to high.
When you look at photo´s you see the springleafs horizontal and not bend downward like in the kit.
Anyways, I love the way you handle this little bug.
Keep up the good work!
Posted: Wednesday, August 14, 2013 - 06:46 AM UTC
@ Frank
Thanks for th compliments. Really appreciated. I never noticed the suspension being too high. Maybe it is a little bit but I'm not too bothered about it. Given the only other alternatives on the market this is, however you turn it, the best kit available. Looking at this wartime pic I think it is not all that bad
I promised new pics yesterday evening but I was occupied with other things. But today I pulled the latest pics through photoshop and I'm going to post them here to fill in the blanks from the last few days. warning a lot of pictures are going to follow. Hope I will not bore you guys.
Last interior pic showed everything in place with some rubbish added in the mix. What did not show is the work on the floor of the vehicle. Not everything is visible in the end but a lot is.
A grubby old engine
The interior with the rubbish added
Then the tractor was closed up. Masked where neccesary. And then it was time to color it green. Severl colors were used with the last layer mixed with some buff for the faded look.
When that was dry I coated the whole thing with a layer of pledge/future and out came the oils for the first stage of weathering. Oil dot filter and pinwashes.
Well and that is how she sits till now. Next up more weathering with oils and pigments and doing something with the tracks. More to follow soon.
With friendly greetz
Robert Blokker
Thanks for th compliments. Really appreciated. I never noticed the suspension being too high. Maybe it is a little bit but I'm not too bothered about it. Given the only other alternatives on the market this is, however you turn it, the best kit available. Looking at this wartime pic I think it is not all that bad
I promised new pics yesterday evening but I was occupied with other things. But today I pulled the latest pics through photoshop and I'm going to post them here to fill in the blanks from the last few days. warning a lot of pictures are going to follow. Hope I will not bore you guys.
Last interior pic showed everything in place with some rubbish added in the mix. What did not show is the work on the floor of the vehicle. Not everything is visible in the end but a lot is.
A grubby old engine
The interior with the rubbish added
Then the tractor was closed up. Masked where neccesary. And then it was time to color it green. Severl colors were used with the last layer mixed with some buff for the faded look.
When that was dry I coated the whole thing with a layer of pledge/future and out came the oils for the first stage of weathering. Oil dot filter and pinwashes.
Well and that is how she sits till now. Next up more weathering with oils and pigments and doing something with the tracks. More to follow soon.
With friendly greetz
Robert Blokker
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New South Wales, Australia
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Posted: Wednesday, August 14, 2013 - 11:36 AM UTC
Looking good Robert!
Posted: Wednesday, August 14, 2013 - 06:36 PM UTC
Ola Jason
Thanks a lot for the compliments really appreciated.
Thanks a lot for the compliments really appreciated.