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Upcoming 1:35 Soviet 85mm 52-K AA Gun
tferedo
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Philippines
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Posted: Saturday, August 10, 2013 - 03:38 AM UTC
Hi Gents,

A new site from the Philippines has some test shots of the future Trumpeter 1:35 85mm 52-K AA Gun.

http://www.filscalemodels.ph/testshots/soviet85mm52k/soviet85mm52k.html

Although not out yet, I am interested to get one as soon as its released. Are there any good references of this AA gun?

Thanks,
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Posted: Sunday, August 11, 2013 - 05:49 AM UTC
WOW! Mega thanks Tony. Chinese moved factories on Philippines?
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Posted: Sunday, August 11, 2013 - 07:00 AM UTC
Though I'm not a big fan of Trumpeter (their business ethics leave something to be desired), this is great news!

I've wondered for years why no one had released one. It's a good looking gun and, from a sales standpoint, the Nazis captured and used quite a few of them.

Mark
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Posted: Sunday, August 11, 2013 - 10:15 AM UTC
Good news!
Finally a soviet WW2 AA gun! Leningrad and Moscow dioramas here i come
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Posted: Monday, August 12, 2013 - 01:47 AM UTC

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WOW! Mega thanks Tony. Chinese moved factories on Philippines?



So far their factories are still in China.
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Posted: Monday, August 12, 2013 - 04:49 AM UTC
Cool!

Just last week I saw a photo of one of these in German use, but I had no idea what it was until I asked.

Now if only we could get a Flak 38/39 or US M1/M2 90mm...
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Posted: Friday, August 23, 2013 - 02:11 PM UTC
Tilt rod only two? The real cannon four. You Strength indicator of the scale and together have molded ... (Semi-circular arc-shaped, like a sheet index) http://legvedelmi-muzeum.hu/kn.php?dir=tuzereszkozok/ksz12/&mask=ksz12&num=5&sel=3
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Posted: Saturday, August 24, 2013 - 12:51 AM UTC

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Cool!

Just last week I saw a photo of one of these in German use, but I had no idea what it was until I asked.

Now if only we could get a Flak 38/39 or US M1/M2 90mm...



I was wondering if they were in German use, did they use captured Soviet 85mm rounds or were any of them re-chambered to accommodate the 88mm FLAK round.

Or did they produce 85mm ammo as well.

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Posted: Saturday, August 24, 2013 - 02:23 AM UTC

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Are there any good references of this AA gun?



Just check out Primeportal

HTH

H.P.
Frenchy
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Posted: Saturday, August 24, 2013 - 02:27 AM UTC

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I was wondering if they were in German use, did they use captured Soviet 85mm rounds or were any of them re-chambered to accommodate the 88mm FLAK round.



From Engines of the Red Army website :

"In 1941 the Germans were glad to use many captured examples as the 8.5 cm Flak M.39(r) and like other captured Russian guns, they were rebored to become the 8.5/8.8 cm Flak M.39(r)."

You can also take a look a this thread on the forum of Axis History.com.

H.P.
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Jasz-Nagkyun-Szolnok, Hungary
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Posted: Saturday, August 24, 2013 - 05:53 AM UTC
The German army in 1941 captured 192 pieces of 76.2 mm and 85 mm Soviet anti-aircraft guns.
76.2 mm guns were used in the ammunition exhausted.
The 85-mm cannon, 1943, Italian industrial companies over 88 mm bore.
The guns were aimed at the German instrument.
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Jasz-Nagkyun-Szolnok, Hungary
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Posted: Saturday, August 24, 2013 - 06:02 AM UTC
A 85 mm KS-12 (K-52) anti-aircraft guns, there were two types of suspension and two barrel version.
The first, early version undercarriages resemble the Bofors 40 mm automatic gun structure, however large the subsequent spring-mounted.
The guns gun shield fitted later.
Ammunition identical to the T-34/85 tank cannon (the tank's cannon from the anti-aircraft guns developed).
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Jasz-Nagkyun-Szolnok, Hungary
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Posted: Saturday, August 24, 2013 - 06:07 AM UTC
A 85 mm KS-12 (K-52) anti-aircraft guns, there were two types of suspension and two barrel version.
The first, early version undercarriages resemble the Bofors 40 mm automatic gun structure, however large the subsequent spring-mounted.
The guns gun shield fitted later.
Ammunition identical to the T-34/85 tank cannon (the tank's cannon from the anti-aircraft guns developed).

juge75
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Jasz-Nagkyun-Szolnok, Hungary
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Posted: Saturday, August 24, 2013 - 06:13 AM UTC
juge75's ks12 album on Photobucket
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Posted: Sunday, August 25, 2013 - 01:17 AM UTC
Thanks a lot guys for the info and references.

Cheers,
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