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Posted: Tuesday, August 27, 2013 - 07:47 AM UTC
The fire alarms are ringing at MiniArt with the announcement of a Fire Truck in the works.

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pdelsoglio
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Posted: Tuesday, August 27, 2013 - 08:11 AM UTC
nice
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Posted: Tuesday, August 27, 2013 - 08:32 AM UTC
looks like this is a cross-branding with ICM

it was released in Ukraine some time ago...
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Posted: Tuesday, August 27, 2013 - 09:09 AM UTC
Not sure they are the same kit, but we reported on that ICM release in June. http://armorama.kitmaker.net/news/14815
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Posted: Tuesday, August 27, 2013 - 09:38 AM UTC
I'd be surprised if they were the same kit - Miniart has already released three variants on the Mercedes L1500, it's highly unlikely they would go with ICM's kit as a basis for this release.
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Posted: Tuesday, August 27, 2013 - 10:53 AM UTC
It looks to me like the MiniArt kit is a little more detailed with interior detailing included and the TSA.

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Posted: Tuesday, August 27, 2013 - 02:25 PM UTC
Actually, it's a LOT more detailed.. and Miniart already had the chassis for this Mercedes... But still, ICM's firefighter figures will go nicely with it

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Posted: Tuesday, August 27, 2013 - 10:57 PM UTC
Looks like a cool vehicle but did MiniArt make prices that are so small that when paint is add the prices are all covered
I have the ICM kit in my wish list
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Posted: Wednesday, August 28, 2013 - 02:06 AM UTC
Maybe the molds were originally made by MiniArt, or they're just sharing them and MiniArt is providing interior sprues (if ICM has no interior).
awrc
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Posted: Wednesday, August 28, 2013 - 05:38 AM UTC
The price for the Miniart kit vs the ICM one will all depend on where you choose to buy (and where you are), I think. On the US domestic market, Miniart stuff seems to be a lot more expensive than ICM - for example, ICM's L1500A Kfz 70 German personnel car is $32.99 from Squadron whereas the equivalent Miniart kit (same vehicle) is $71.10. However, Miniart stuff is enormously expensive in the US - if you go to somewhere like HobbyEasy in HK, you can get the ICM kit mentioned above (i.e. personnel car, not the fire truck) for $21.54 whereas the Miniart version is $31.03 (actually, it's $27.95 right now, but that's a sale price). So while the ICM is always going to be cheapest, if you shop around the Miniart version of the kit *doesn't* have to be 215% the price of the ICM one, like it is from Squadron.
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Posted: Wednesday, August 28, 2013 - 10:15 AM UTC
It's definitely a different kit as the ICM version has fixed doors wheras these ones open....
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Posted: Wednesday, August 28, 2013 - 11:18 AM UTC
Also, the details on PMMS specify "all-new tooling", which is pretty conclusive :-) It's a shame we're seeing subject duplication, but I suspect the target markets will differ a bit - I'm sure there'll be a lot of people who're quite happy with the ICM kit and would view the Miniart kit (anyone want to guess the parts count? I'm estimating 2-3 times the number of parts in the ICM kit). If I was doing a diorama with a couple of fire trucks in it, I might even use one of each - one fully opened up for a vehicle already on the scene (using the Miniart kit) and another just arriving (using the ICM kit).
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Posted: Wednesday, August 28, 2013 - 11:23 AM UTC
Oh, given the way ICM and Miniart (and to a lesser extent Masterbox) are doing all these nice German softskins (insert obligatory plea for non-German softskins here), one thing I find odd is that one of the most numerous vehicles (if the photos in my reference books are anything to go by), the Horch Typ 108, still exists only as a rather basic Tamiya kit from the early 70s. As with stuff like the MB L1500, there were a heap of different variations on this, and the only way right now to do those is to pick up the Tamiya kit and a Leadwarrior resin conversion.
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Posted: Wednesday, August 28, 2013 - 04:40 PM UTC
Miniarts will be a more complicated build with many more parts than ICM. I would get the Miniart kit as my experience with ICM has been they use crappy plastic that's hard to remove pieces from the sprue without breaking. Yes I tried a razor saw....
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Posted: Thursday, August 29, 2013 - 03:32 AM UTC
An interesting question is wether Miniart will release just the TSA or even just the TS 8-8 (never just use Acht Acht as a name(1)) as a separat kit. Those units where (some still are) used without the truck past WWII in rural settings like this.

And a very similar unit based on the 1to "Standard" trailer was used by the Bundeswehr. The fire pump itself is likely the same as the one shown here (800l min at 8 bar pressure hence the name)

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Posted: Friday, August 30, 2013 - 02:22 PM UTC
Looks like it's going to be a good kit, though the masks on the rebreathers appear to be post war Soviet style.
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