Hey guys! I don't know why this thing is happening to me. I think I screw up this kit. Any help would be appreciated.
Screwed M2A2 ODS
Ok, I used my Badger 175 AB and Tammy Desert Yellow to paint the kit. I tried washing it with Tammy Flat Brown but it get worst.
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I Screwed Up My M2A2 ODS :(
shonen_red
Joined: February 20, 2003
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Posted: Thursday, January 01, 2004 - 02:57 AM UTC
TankCarl
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Posted: Thursday, January 01, 2004 - 03:31 AM UTC
Did you do a flood wash over everything? With that many little bolt heads and such,I do a "pinwash".Just applying a drop from the end of a pin onto what I want to create a shadow around.
AJLaFleche
Joined: May 05, 2002
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Posted: Thursday, January 01, 2004 - 03:45 AM UTC
This is why I hate 
Tamiya paint. I have never liked the results of a wash with any acrylic paint from anyone. Oils and enamels have much finer pigments and flow better.
Okay. All is not lost. It'll take time, but get some rubbing alcohol (isopropyl) and some rags and start rubbing. The paint should come off relatively easily, especially if it hasn't been on too long. Try using enamels instead of acrylics in the AB, I find they work so much better for armor kits and large surfaces.
God luck.
Tamiya paint. I have never liked the results of a wash with any acrylic paint from anyone. Oils and enamels have much finer pigments and flow better. Okay. All is not lost. It'll take time, but get some rubbing alcohol (isopropyl) and some rags and start rubbing. The paint should come off relatively easily, especially if it hasn't been on too long. Try using enamels instead of acrylics in the AB, I find they work so much better for armor kits and large surfaces.
God luck.
Grasshopp12
Joined: September 28, 2002
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Posted: Thursday, January 01, 2004 - 04:11 AM UTC
Sort of echoing what Al said. I do use Tamiya paints for overall painting however, I put down a couple coats of Future after my base colors, but before I do my washes. In addition, I use artist oils exclusively and only spot wash. The thinner I use is very mild, so I don't have to worry about it attacking my base colors.
shonen_red
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Posted: Thursday, January 01, 2004 - 04:13 AM UTC
How was my painting? I found irregular painting on my kit.
shonen_red
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Posted: Thursday, January 01, 2004 - 05:44 AM UTC
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This is why I hate
Okay. All is not lost. It'll take time, but get some rubbing alcohol (isopropyl) and some rags and start rubbing. The paint should come off relatively easily, especially if it hasn't been on too long. Try using enamels instead of acrylics in the AB, I find they work so much better for armor kits and large surfaces.
God luck.
uhhh... I did use enamels for that
cardinal
Joined: October 05, 2003
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Posted: Thursday, January 01, 2004 - 06:12 AM UTC
I always use Tamiya acrylics on my armor kits but I use artist water color for the wash. The wash is usually a mixture of water, vinegar, dishwashing soap & just a bit of the water color. Then I do a "slap-it-all-over" wash. The good thing about the water color is that they're very forgiving. If you don't like the wash that you did you could always put the model under the tap(faucet) & then you could start all over again. 
thebear
Joined: November 15, 2002
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Posted: Thursday, January 01, 2004 - 08:15 AM UTC
Hey Red ...All is not lost...I'm sure you can use this as your base coat and just reload your AB with a lightened up desert yellow and fade the paint ..This will hide most of the mess and with a good oil wash after all this things should look worn and dusty just like the real thing...I have heard but have never tried is if you want to wash with Tamiya's paint ,you just add a little drop of dish soap to the paint and this helps it run better...Don't take my word for it but try it on a scrap piece of plastic..Good luck with this project ..And Happy New year of course!! 
Rick
Rick
firemann816
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Posted: Thursday, January 01, 2004 - 10:12 AM UTC
Red -
Consider stripping ALL the paint off entirely and starting from scratch
Check the results of a "Search Forums" for 'paint stripping', below :
https://armorama.kitmaker.net/modules.php?op=modload&name=PostBoard&file=search&sortby=&req=result&page=1&srchfid=4&srchuname=&srchterms=any&srchtxt=oven%20cleaner&srchin=both&startedby=
Consider stripping ALL the paint off entirely and starting from scratch
Check the results of a "Search Forums" for 'paint stripping', below :
https://armorama.kitmaker.net/modules.php?op=modload&name=PostBoard&file=search&sortby=&req=result&page=1&srchfid=4&srchuname=&srchterms=any&srchtxt=oven%20cleaner&srchin=both&startedby=
sniper
Joined: May 07, 2002
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Posted: Thursday, January 01, 2004 - 10:24 AM UTC
Just strip and repaint. I recently had a contest winner that was stripped about 3 different times. I was so fed up that I'm now glad I didn't throw the thing on the floor at some point!
Just use some oven cleaner. Easy Off or a cheap can that you can pick up at a dollar store. This is the foaming spray on type that I am talking about.
Spray it on and the paint will start to dissolve. Rinse with water. You may need several applications and scrub lightly in places with an old toothbrush. Use a lot of oven cleaner if it's not working. Trust me, it will come off. Then, be sure to wash the model with a little dish soap and dry.
You will be amazed at how many times you can repaint the same piece of plastic!
I use Tamiya paints exclusively for airbrushing and some detail painting. (Never for a wash though. Get some oil paints for that.) All are thinned with alcohol. Once you work with them, you will find they are very, very good.
Steve
tazz
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Posted: Thursday, January 01, 2004 - 12:05 PM UTC
u cant ues tammy paints for washes .
this happned to me when i did a wash useing tammy wash the kit got messed up.
and some times when u do a whole wash over flat places where no detail is it drys like this even with testors paint u will be able to fix it
this happned to me when i did a wash useing tammy wash the kit got messed up.
and some times when u do a whole wash over flat places where no detail is it drys like this even with testors paint u will be able to fix it
shonen_red
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Posted: Thursday, January 01, 2004 - 07:38 PM UTC
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I use Tamiya paints exclusively for airbrushing and some detail painting. (Never for a wash though. Get some oil paints for that.) All are thinned with alcohol
Alcohol? Use alcohol as a thinner for Tamiya Enamels?
sgtreef
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Posted: Friday, January 02, 2004 - 12:03 AM UTC
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Quoted TextI use Tamiya paints exclusively for airbrushing and some detail painting. (Never for a wash though. Get some oil paints for that.) All are thinned with alcohol
Alcohol? Use alcohol as a thinner for Tamiya Enamels?
Or use their thinner! Sorry for saying oil is the way on washes. you can't use acrylic wash over acrylic paint solvent will take base paint off. Trust me I know. Unless you shoot dullcoat first a lacquer based product and let dry for 2 days at least 3 is better!!
Do as sniper said Easy off.!!
TUNA
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Posted: Friday, January 02, 2004 - 12:56 AM UTC
Hi Shonen, you stated to Al, that you used Enamels? But Tamiya's are acrylic???
Anyhow.. I use Acrylics for base all the time.. but you have to protect the base before the wash.... a lot of people use Future Floor Polish.. this makes a very good protective coat.. and it also helps the wash to flow easily....
cheers
Charlie
Anyhow.. I use Acrylics for base all the time.. but you have to protect the base before the wash.... a lot of people use Future Floor Polish.. this makes a very good protective coat.. and it also helps the wash to flow easily....
cheers
Charlie
Fritz
Joined: March 17, 2003
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Posted: Friday, January 02, 2004 - 01:37 AM UTC
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Alcohol? Use alcohol as a thinner for Tamiya Enamels?
I also use Alcohol but for Tamiya Acrylics only.
As I have seen from your work your finish is glossy. Did you use Enamel paint for the basecoat? If yes, then never enamel wash over an enamel base. use enamel wash ONLY for acrylic bases & vice-versa. If no, then I guess its the thinner you used (Gamitin mo yung nabibili sa Hardware ng P 20 pababa. Yung paint thinner ha hindi yung lacquer thinner). This thinner though will eat some plastic but since the base will be acrylic, the damage will be lessened or eliminated.
shonen_red
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Posted: Friday, January 02, 2004 - 02:38 AM UTC
Yeah, that's what I've been using a long time ago. 1 liter paint thinner which comes in a metal container. As for the glossy finish, no worry, I have matt finish to tame it down.
210cav
Joined: February 05, 2002
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Posted: Friday, January 02, 2004 - 04:34 AM UTC
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Just strip and repaint. I recently had a contest winner that was stripped about 3 different times. I was so fed up that I'm now glad I didn't throw the thing on the floor at some point!
Just use some oven cleaner. Easy Off or a cheap can that you can pick up at a dollar store. This is the foaming spray on type that I am talking about.
Spray it on and the paint will start to dissolve. Rinse with water. You may need several applications and scrub lightly in places with an old toothbrush. Use a lot of oven cleaner if it's not working. Trust me, it will come off. Then, be sure to wash the model with a little dish soap and dry.
You will be amazed at how many times you can repaint the same piece of plastic!
I use Tamiya paints exclusively for airbrushing and some detail painting. (Never for a wash though. Get some oil paints for that.) All are thinned with alcohol. Once you work with them, you will find they are very, very good.
Steve
Use Steve's method! The results fully justify the effort. I brought back models I made twenty years ago. Ventilate the area. Sabot sugested using a large freezer bag and closing it once the model is saturated overnight. Didn't try that, but it might be worthy of effort. Experiment first. You can go from bad to worse.
DJ
shonen_red
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Posted: Friday, January 02, 2004 - 04:49 AM UTC
Thanks! Actually stripping out the paint was one of my options. I have done that on my Sea Harrier and F/A-18E a long time ago. It will require lots of tissue to remove all paint.
mikeli125
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Posted: Friday, January 02, 2004 - 06:04 AM UTC
stripping the paint inst that hard get some oven cleaner spray it on your kit leave it for a little while then use an old tooth brush to remove all the old paint very easy to do :-)
210cav
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Posted: Friday, January 02, 2004 - 06:12 AM UTC
Agree. The end product is well worth it. Make sure to ventilate the area.
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