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T80 from on the Box
sampiero
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Posted: Sunday, August 31, 2014 - 09:06 AM UTC
Hello there
editing that follows is part of a thought: how we did before without internet, documentation, etc? mounting the T80 will be out of box as I stated in the title, without additions photo etching, resin parts, without any documentation ... nothing.
The plan will be enough to mount the shield with or without defects, with painting in stock.
Imagine it's your first model with the means you have, that is not much, no money!
I would do two parallel circuits knowing that I would keep one for armored diorama. I would use 2 different brands to compare them.

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Posted: Sunday, August 31, 2014 - 09:42 AM UTC
Not much to compare. As far as I know, these are basically the same kit with different engine decks and ERA armor, just boxed by two different companies. Zvezda, Revell/Germany and Italeri have cross marketing deals, and release each others' kits periodically. Zvezda bought Dragon's old, inaccurate Soviet era molds about twenty years ago (Dragon originally released them in 1989), and reissued the kits. The Zvezda T-72 kits are also from Dragon.
Dragon designed the molds for their T-80 BV and UD kits (they offered the turbine and diesel versions) just before the Soviet Union came down and western observers had a chance to actually measure the vehicles, so they are all wrong to some extent. The T-80's have some dimensional issues, the turret shape isn't quite right, the wheels have a step inside the rim that shouldn't be there, and the cannon barrel is way too thick, but it should serve your purpose to show what can be done using basic techniques.
By the way, Zvezda's new T-90 is an all new kit, and much more accurate.
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Posted: Monday, September 01, 2014 - 05:14 AM UTC
Hello,
Both are reboxed (old) Dragon kits. Just like their T-72s. Italeri T-72s also.
sampiero
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Posted: Monday, September 01, 2014 - 09:35 AM UTC
Hi
Thank you for the information that will be useful to all. Indeed from opening cans have found great similarity in terms and the body of the tank.
When the quality of the product it is up to the manufacturer: very basic!
Installation is simple, easy to assemble but need a little skill because the plan is not always clear ....... we'll see what ultimately gives the model complete.



The packaging is really light for zvezda, the parts are loose at home Italeri



the frame is the same except for the rear two boxes differentiates models







sampiero
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Posted: Tuesday, September 02, 2014 - 10:04 AM UTC
a feature of the production of injection are those excess plastic that interfere assembly, or the need to be deleted; it is important to use the "dremel" for changes to the junction of the chassis and bodywork.




Then the frame is done very quickly.
sampiero
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Posted: Monday, September 08, 2014 - 04:52 AM UTC
the use of "Putty" is required.



having corrected any imperfections, primer is applied!
sampiero
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Posted: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 - 12:22 AM UTC
The MBT receives a gray primer, as I said at the beginning painting is made with a stock of old Humbrol references but this applies to all brands. It is covered by a light khaki green US, the approaching Russian. I paint according to my method because I think camouflage is more real in the molten colors. Each his method, of course! I defines the forms with the newspaper, I superimposed at a distance then I paint the camouflage freehand, I do not expect the drying between colors.. Following in pictures ...





sampiero
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Posted: Wednesday, September 24, 2014 - 10:22 AM UTC
hello to all
the model is very dull, to give a little shine, I sprayed varnish Winsor "liquin." This product will give color to the set and depends on color, it will be silky.


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Posted: Saturday, September 27, 2014 - 07:46 AM UTC
Hi,

Nice work so far, just one note and I am sorry to point that out but the UD's smoke dischargers are upside down.

Cheers,

Adam
sampiero
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Posted: Tuesday, October 07, 2014 - 08:52 AM UTC

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Hi,

Nice work so far, just one note and I am sorry to point that out but the UD's smoke dischargers are upside down.

Cheers,

Adam



Thank you for the comments, but as I said at the beginning I ride as if it were a beginner. Regarding the smoke pots I thought in terms they were completely vertical in relation to reality.
sampiero
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Posted: Tuesday, October 07, 2014 - 09:15 AM UTC
caterpillars are assembled half as hidden ones do not happen to be installées.The weathering is the oil painting.



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Posted: Tuesday, October 07, 2014 - 09:34 AM UTC

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they were completely vertical in relation to reality.



Pardon?? lol Slapping Linseed oil all over it huh? Break out the Pledge or Furniture polish? Different...no set rules.
So, let me get this straight...you have 2 identical molds...so the first one your pretending to be a beginner ...slap it together & not using references or special add on products via internet etc...& your only going to use what you have on hand..hence the linseed oil..you found in moms under the sink cleaning products area?
The second one your going to put it together using all kinds of different accessories you can find off the internet ...because now your pretending to be an accomplished modeller with an internet connection & references that are accessible? This time you will be using MIG dulcote ..& AK pigments?
Yes?
I'm just trying to understand.
sampiero
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Posted: Wednesday, October 08, 2014 - 11:06 AM UTC

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they were completely vertical in relation to reality.



Pardon?? lol Slapping Linseed oil all over it huh? Break out the Pledge or Furniture polish? Different...no set rules.
So, let me get this straight...you have 2 identical molds...so the first one your pretending to be a beginner ...slap it together & not using references or special add on products via internet etc...& your only going to use what you have on hand..hence the linseed oil..you found in moms under the sink cleaning products area?
The second one your going to put it together using all kinds of different accessories you can find off the internet ...because now your pretending to be an accomplished modeller with an internet connection & references that are accessible? This time you will be using MIG dulcote ..& AK pigments?
Yes?
I'm just trying to understand.



I will try to understand the translation of my friend google your comments.
1 / early I talk about a mounting out of the box working only with the plan and the old stocks of paints, various products, no documentation and no internet.
2 / you have to put in place a modelist- who learns and who did not have the means to buy all the produce that is found today (PE, resin, Friul etc)
3 / "Liquin" is a product-based resin used for oil paintings, it speeds up the drying of the paint, it gives effect to the painting.
4 / JimboHUN in response to a remark I made like I was a beginner, see 1.
5 / For the rest there will not MIG or AK only pastels and decorated powder (natural product) that I used for my 537 MAZ Ukrainian.
6 / As regards the products that are under the sink, I use the product to clean the floor of Johnson as varnish.
I think I have answered your questions ??


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Posted: Wednesday, October 08, 2014 - 08:56 PM UTC
Accuracy aside, you are doing a bang up job.
sampiero
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Posted: Friday, October 10, 2014 - 08:52 AM UTC

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Accuracy aside, you are doing a bang up job.



Thank you! but this is only the beginning of work, there are others more qualified than me designers in this field.
sampiero
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Posted: Friday, October 10, 2014 - 09:25 AM UTC
To give realism on optical, here's a tutorial staff.
you have to dig optical, paint the inside next to the desired color after drying it remains only injected transparent resin.



hoping that it will be useful
sampiero
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Posted: Thursday, October 16, 2014 - 05:13 AM UTC
site preparation


with an addition of herbs


sampiero
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Posted: Friday, October 24, 2014 - 10:06 AM UTC
Here! it's over, he took a position on the diorama
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