Now that part one has dried completely,started to put the dark shading in the nooks and crannys,this i did in dark brown,a mixture of Mars Black and Burnt Sienna,and stippled it in with a soft brush,the next step was the wheels, springs,and trackswhich i did with a wash of Mars Black,when dry all sharp edges and wheels were drybrushed in Titanium White and touched in by a lead pencil.The next step is to weather it some more,i would like to know which parts of the armour,tracks etc would be prone to rust if at all,my thanks to the few people who replied and gave input to part one,but to be quite honest is wasn't overwhelming,come on guys give me some help here,or give me some stick,anything,make Rivet Review more entertaining LOL.
Arthur
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Wespe in oils part 2
Arthur
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Posted: Friday, January 16, 2004 - 06:23 AM UTC
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Posted: Friday, January 16, 2004 - 06:34 AM UTC
Hey Arthur,
Nice work on this Wespe, your weathering job is progressing well, the subtleness is appreciated.
As for the tracks, they were usually a light brown colour due to the high levels on Manganese in them and were prone to rust in the recessed areas.
Also regarding the tracks, in the picture of the rear of the vehicle, the inward slant of the tracks seems to be inaccurate, if the track were to bend like this, I expect it would be thrown.
Also, the track sag should be consistent while it seems that only one part of the track is sagging in the first picture.
The spare tracks at the front of the vehicle should be more rusted than the ones in use as they would not be in contact with the ground.
Finally, the victory rings look slightly thick and out of scale, my reference photos show them as resembling a typical paintbrush thickness.
Keep up the nice work,
Andrew
Nice work on this Wespe, your weathering job is progressing well, the subtleness is appreciated.
As for the tracks, they were usually a light brown colour due to the high levels on Manganese in them and were prone to rust in the recessed areas.
Also regarding the tracks, in the picture of the rear of the vehicle, the inward slant of the tracks seems to be inaccurate, if the track were to bend like this, I expect it would be thrown.
Also, the track sag should be consistent while it seems that only one part of the track is sagging in the first picture.
The spare tracks at the front of the vehicle should be more rusted than the ones in use as they would not be in contact with the ground.
Finally, the victory rings look slightly thick and out of scale, my reference photos show them as resembling a typical paintbrush thickness.
Keep up the nice work,
Andrew
Arthur
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Posted: Friday, January 16, 2004 - 06:46 AM UTC
Thanks Andrew,your comments are appreciated,as the tracks are now fixed,it is too late to do much about them,but for the next project i will bear that in mind,but i can fix the rings.
Arthur
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stugiiif
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Posted: Friday, January 16, 2004 - 10:08 AM UTC
I agree with Obe on the tracks. Also the interior would have heavy paint chiping on the dack, shell rounds falling crew moving around, it would also have a good helping of boot mud. In general it looks good. When are you doing the article on painting armour with oils, I think people are forgeting that this was painted by hand!!!! STUG
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Posted: Friday, January 16, 2004 - 10:14 AM UTC
Hi Arthur-
Looks very good so far :-) I must say that I am impressed :-)
As far as rust goes - I would skip it, except for on the tracks a bit and the muffler..... just my personal taste... for what it's worth.
The two straps holding the muffler on the back would have been origionally painted the base color of the vehicle, so you might do a little dry brushing on them with this color to make them stand out a bit from the muffler.
I especially like the lower running gear and wheels - they look really good :-)
Jeff
Looks very good so far :-) I must say that I am impressed :-)
As far as rust goes - I would skip it, except for on the tracks a bit and the muffler..... just my personal taste... for what it's worth.
The two straps holding the muffler on the back would have been origionally painted the base color of the vehicle, so you might do a little dry brushing on them with this color to make them stand out a bit from the muffler.
I especially like the lower running gear and wheels - they look really good :-)
Jeff
Arthur
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Posted: Friday, January 16, 2004 - 11:30 AM UTC
Hi Steve,are you tallking about the deck in the fighting compartment,or outside,your points on boot mud noted and taken on board,as for an article,i was given a Marder for Xmas,and i think that might do,thanks for mixing it.Jeff..good point about the muffller,it makes sense,if i look at the exhaust on my car,it looks the same.i agree about the rust,i would like to keep it to a mininum,this is the kind of input i like....thanks.
Arthur
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stugiiif
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Posted: Friday, January 16, 2004 - 01:53 PM UTC
Arthur I was refering to the fighting compartment. Most of my comments were aminly suggestions, but the chpong shows so well against the german grey. Again this looks great. Well done on one of my favorite subjects. STUG
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Posted: Saturday, January 17, 2004 - 12:52 AM UTC
My suggestion would be to lose the tracks and get some Fruil ones!
But that is my 2 cents and not my money to spend!
But by golly I will spend it for YA!!
Maybe after I night of tipping the Crown to much I see some guide horns Missing tween the 2 and 3 set of road wheels!!
are my eyes playing tricks on me?
The tracks would solve this problem!
As you are tough as nails I would say that to me you have captured the ole early verlinden style of modeling!
Ditto on the Muffler either darken it or lighten the clamps!!
Well how is that for some criticism.
All in days work hail the Crown!
But that is my 2 cents and not my money to spend!
But by golly I will spend it for YA!!
Maybe after I night of tipping the Crown to much I see some guide horns Missing tween the 2 and 3 set of road wheels!!
are my eyes playing tricks on me?
The tracks would solve this problem!
As you are tough as nails I would say that to me you have captured the ole early verlinden style of modeling!
Ditto on the Muffler either darken it or lighten the clamps!!
Well how is that for some criticism.
All in days work hail the Crown!
Arthur
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Posted: Saturday, January 17, 2004 - 01:56 AM UTC
Hi Jeff,you are spot on about the tracks,they were a bloody pig and a half to put on,they kept snapping,they have got more joins than Charlton Hestons wig,it seems i am on a learning curve to hell( bloody Verlinden) will have to change that style quick,i have just made a complete cock up with the decals,after a coat of matt varnish,the damm things were still shiny,so i stripped them off,trouble is i stripped the paint off as well,so it looks at the moment like the dogs dinner,Ah well i think i will console myself with some cork popping,keep up the good work with the Crown he he.
Arthur
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