(BTW, you think this is bad, you should see the threads about the Dragon Black label M103...)
Anyhow, moving on, we will need to compile a "tweaks list" for this kit once we know all the things that need to be done. Keep at it Gents.
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Trumpeter T-72M4CZ second problem............
Jacques
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Posted: Wednesday, July 22, 2015 - 06:09 PM UTC
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arpikaszabo
Praha, Czech Republic
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Posted: Wednesday, July 22, 2015 - 11:49 PM UTC
Something to add to the list:
- The supports for the laser detectors on the turret sides should have an oval hole in them (clearly visible in the walkaround above, also BEWARE, there seem to be two slightly different versions of the t72m4cz, the main difference I noticed are the the smoke grenade launchers and the support brackets for the turret side ERA blocks)
- there is a large amount of cabling missing on the turret sides, leading to the laser detectors and to other things I have not figured out yet.
- the ERA blocks on the frontal hull are missing detail on their sides. Easy to fix, check the above posted walkarounds, again
I am building the kit right now, while trying to fix these small but annoying mistakes. I will post the results of my efforts when I am done with the fixes
- The supports for the laser detectors on the turret sides should have an oval hole in them (clearly visible in the walkaround above, also BEWARE, there seem to be two slightly different versions of the t72m4cz, the main difference I noticed are the the smoke grenade launchers and the support brackets for the turret side ERA blocks)
- there is a large amount of cabling missing on the turret sides, leading to the laser detectors and to other things I have not figured out yet.
- the ERA blocks on the frontal hull are missing detail on their sides. Easy to fix, check the above posted walkarounds, again
I am building the kit right now, while trying to fix these small but annoying mistakes. I will post the results of my efforts when I am done with the fixes
andymacrae
Scotland, United Kingdom
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Posted: Thursday, July 23, 2015 - 02:25 AM UTC
Maybe we should have a pinned "How to model a T-72M4CZ" thread?
Andy
Andy
Jacques
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Posted: Thursday, July 23, 2015 - 07:18 AM UTC
If you so wish, it can be pinned. Might be better organized in the T-72 thread, but it would probably be lost there. Finish it all up with a organized "tweaks list" and I will make sure it gets pinned to the top. Fair?
arpikaszabo
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Posted: Saturday, July 25, 2015 - 12:20 PM UTC
I am discovering more issues as I am progressing:
-The turret is missing the characteristic 4 lifting hooks
-The supports for the ERA plates on the front hull are absent, the whole thing just "floats" in the air
-On the font hull ERA blocks, the top 4 blocks in the middle, shold be recessed, below the level of the other blocks. Instead they are sloped.
-Now for the river counters: The ERA blocks on the front hull are held down by 4 hex bolts each (no way I am correcting this one)
Making a better sticky thread would be a good idea. When I find all the qirks I can uncover I could make a list with some photos to highlight what needs to be done.
-The turret is missing the characteristic 4 lifting hooks
-The supports for the ERA plates on the front hull are absent, the whole thing just "floats" in the air
-On the font hull ERA blocks, the top 4 blocks in the middle, shold be recessed, below the level of the other blocks. Instead they are sloped.
-Now for the river counters: The ERA blocks on the front hull are held down by 4 hex bolts each (no way I am correcting this one)
Making a better sticky thread would be a good idea. When I find all the qirks I can uncover I could make a list with some photos to highlight what needs to be done.
Jacques
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Posted: Sunday, July 26, 2015 - 02:20 AM UTC
Quoted Text
Making a better sticky thread would be a good idea. When I find all the qirks I can uncover I could make a list with some photos to highlight what needs to be done.
Perfect. Thank you.
andymacrae
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Posted: Thursday, September 17, 2015 - 12:44 PM UTC
Some excellent pics of the suspension in this thread:
http://www.modelforum.cz/viewtopic.php?f=58&t=95127
HTH
Andy
http://www.modelforum.cz/viewtopic.php?f=58&t=95127
HTH
Andy