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trouble with early trumpeter kits
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Posted: Saturday, May 07, 2016 - 04:51 PM UTC
Has anyone ever had any problems with glue bonding the parts on early trumpeter kits Im experincing that right now with thier model of the Chinese type 98 Main Battle Tank and the glue in using is Model Master's liquid cement
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Posted: Saturday, May 07, 2016 - 05:22 PM UTC
Did you wash the model, first?
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Posted: Saturday, May 07, 2016 - 05:40 PM UTC
Some of the early Trumpeter kits were made of ABS plastic, not styrene. So MM liquid cement will have minimal or no effect at all. You can either try superglue, or get a special ABS glue.
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Posted: Saturday, May 07, 2016 - 05:41 PM UTC

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Has anyone ever had any problems with glue bonding the parts on early trumpeter kits Im experincing that right now with thier model of the Chinese type 98 Main Battle Tank and the glue in using is Model Master's liquid cement


Yes, the earlier Trumpeter kits were of a different kind of plastic (ABS plastic) which didn't react to the plastic cements we usually use.....
The cement which comes with the kit helpes but I'm afraid that cynocrylate or "superglue" is the bestoption for those early kits.

HTH,

Sam.
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Posted: Saturday, May 07, 2016 - 05:43 PM UTC
I used Tamiya thin cement (green cap) and it worked. As Pawel sais it, some CA glue can prove useful too.

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Posted: Saturday, May 07, 2016 - 07:04 PM UTC
If it is ABS then a MEK based glue or solvent should work but it's strong stuff so beware.
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Posted: Saturday, May 07, 2016 - 07:09 PM UTC
I had a early trumpy kit would not go together with a wash or super glue or even kit supplied glue still sitting in pieces over a decade later

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Posted: Saturday, May 07, 2016 - 07:14 PM UTC
Have you tried Plastruct's PlasticWeld, or similar multi-plastic glue? Plastruct's early grey ABS shapes needed it, since normal styrene glues had no effect.
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Posted: Saturday, May 07, 2016 - 08:23 PM UTC
Those early Trumpeter kits are the worst I have ever seen,and that includes all of those early 90's Eastern European kits.I have never seen anything that would keep them together and they included there own tube of plastic cement/glue!!!I just don't even know if Gorilla Glue would work,but me,I stay away from all of those early kits of theirs.
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Posted: Saturday, May 07, 2016 - 08:42 PM UTC

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Those early Trumpeter kits are the worst I have ever seen,and that includes all of those early 90's Eastern European kits.I have never seen anything that would keep them together and they included there own tube of plastic cement/glue!!!I just don't even know if Gorilla Glue would work,but me,I stay away from all of those early kits of theirs.

Its a good thing it didnt cost me much ,this kit is off to the scrap yard its not worth wasting my time on it
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Posted: Saturday, May 07, 2016 - 08:45 PM UTC
Didn't know that such was the issue with the old Trumpeter kits. If its ABS then I believe Tamiya has a cement for such:



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