and an early Nagmachon without doghouse.. coming up at the Malaysia model show
The other two have already been announced
Aplogies if this is old news to you guys
Hisham
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Posted: Tuesday, May 31, 2016 - 02:00 AM UTC
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Posted: Tuesday, May 31, 2016 - 02:28 AM UTC
Very welcome, I love the T-90.
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Posted: Tuesday, May 31, 2016 - 03:51 AM UTC
is trumpeter out with their t-90ms yet? and plus, any word from tiger-model's t-90ms?
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Posted: Tuesday, May 31, 2016 - 03:55 AM UTC
That's great news! Tiger models seems to have the same interests as I do in MBT's, first the AMX30 Brennus, now this. I think Trumpeter announced one (and don't get me wrong I really like Trumpeter too!), but I think I'll throw my support to Tiger models since they are relatively new, so hopefully they will keep them coming
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Posted: Tuesday, May 31, 2016 - 06:21 AM UTC
Squadron has it in stock.
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Posted: Tuesday, May 31, 2016 - 08:38 AM UTC
And looking at that Nagmachon, I'd bet it has the interior the first kit is lacking...
happy I have one in the stash
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happy I have one in the stash
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Posted: Tuesday, May 31, 2016 - 10:32 AM UTC
Thanks for the update Hisham! Great news and very welcome releases! Especially the Nagmachon with interior (if any) would be great! As far as i remember Hobbyboss announced a Nagmachon in the past! Concerning T-90MS Trumpeter already released it, but Tiger's offering is also welcome to compare it with trumpy's offering! Where did you find the original news?
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Posted: Tuesday, May 31, 2016 - 03:10 PM UTC
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That's great news! Tiger models seems to have the same interests as I do in MBT's, first the AMX30 Brennus, now this. I think Trumpeter announced one (and don't get me wrong I really like Trumpeter too!), but I think I'll throw my support to Tiger models since they are relatively new, so hopefully they will keep them coming
see what poster said? Mod 2011-2012.....the same...I was expecting they release something new or at least new version....well....
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Posted: Tuesday, May 31, 2016 - 04:03 PM UTC
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Quoted TextThat's great news! Tiger models seems to have the same interests as I do in MBT's, first the AMX30 Brennus, now this. I think Trumpeter announced one (and don't get me wrong I really like Trumpeter too!), but I think I'll throw my support to Tiger models since they are relatively new, so hopefully they will keep them coming
see what poster said? Mod 2011-2012.....the same...I was expecting they release something new or at least new version....well....
Well, this happens a lot lately, and every time it does someone complains that "why do they do the same kit when there is already one from another company?" it is simple, they spent a lot of money, man hours and company resources to do the research, development, cut the molds, marketing etc... If someone else releases the kit first, they cannot afford to just "give up" and drop the project. They have to release it anyway, and hope they did a better job with the kit, so when it does get released, we will compare the kits on these forums and maybe they will get the better review, and maybe sell more kits than the competition. It's my opinion that this is good for us as modelers. The fact that another company might do a better job and cut into your sales SHOULD keep everyone at least TRYING to improve their releases (Can't figure Black Label into that equation though, they don't seem to care)
Just my opinion though -
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Posted: Tuesday, May 31, 2016 - 04:26 PM UTC
"Because Hasegawa Mustang doesn't make money for Tamiya..."
It's true, but at least in such small production series vehicles, like the MS, it makes more sense to make a different version.
In this particular case trumpeter announced the MS back in 2015 (Q2 if I recall correctly). Tiger could've made some efforts to push a later model.
As now I have Trumpeter on pre-order, there is no chance that I'll buy this one, even if it comes with working suspension (torsion bars) or interior. Plus given the slats on their BMPT-72, I'm sure it'll need some PE.
And before someone says that I'm biased - I also placed a pre-order for their VBL, which is a little gem in its latest forms.
It's true, but at least in such small production series vehicles, like the MS, it makes more sense to make a different version.
In this particular case trumpeter announced the MS back in 2015 (Q2 if I recall correctly). Tiger could've made some efforts to push a later model.
As now I have Trumpeter on pre-order, there is no chance that I'll buy this one, even if it comes with working suspension (torsion bars) or interior. Plus given the slats on their BMPT-72, I'm sure it'll need some PE.
And before someone says that I'm biased - I also placed a pre-order for their VBL, which is a little gem in its latest forms.
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Posted: Tuesday, May 31, 2016 - 04:37 PM UTC
If you look at Tiger-Model sprues, like all the ones I have with the VBL and the others, you'll see that they are stamped with 2014.. so they started doing the research in 2013, or maybe even earlier than that. They obviously had all these models ready with samples already made and built to make sure there are no problems before they release them. The poster says they will have built samples of these kits at the show.. so, these are not initial announcements, these are kits pretty close to release
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Posted: Tuesday, May 31, 2016 - 04:59 PM UTC
There is plenty of time to do some research and release a different version.
And I say this not because I don't like them, but because companies should be flexible if they want to say on market.
I hope to see the Israeli thing soon, as all the others are now out of my interest.
And I say this not because I don't like them, but because companies should be flexible if they want to say on market.
I hope to see the Israeli thing soon, as all the others are now out of my interest.
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Posted: Tuesday, May 31, 2016 - 05:11 PM UTC
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There is plenty of time to do some research and release a different version.
If you mean abandon this one and all the money they spent on it, then I don't think that's good business... But if you mean a different version in the future, then sure, how do we know they're not working on one now?
I remember a while ago when they announced the AMX30, Daniel from Hobbyeasy told me that they had showed him that model - and even sent me a couple of pics of it - and that they showed him built samples of several other kits that were obviously already at the production stage... Unfortunately, he wouldn't divulge any info
Anyway, lots of new models - whether we like all of them or agree with each companies policies - means the hobby is growing and that, in time, most people will get a good percentage of their wish list come true
Hisham
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Posted: Wednesday, June 01, 2016 - 04:52 PM UTC
Hisham thank you very much for the photos!Pretty nice footage! I believe until the end of the year all will be available! What about the Nagmachon?Does it include interior? Any photos?
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Posted: Wednesday, June 01, 2016 - 05:11 PM UTC
I haven't found any pics of it yet, but I believe it will have some kind of interior.. because I'm working on their first Nagmachon w/doghouse and the interior of the lower hull has some openings and stuff where parts would go
I found the pic of the interior of the hull.. so, I think there will be some interior, at least
By the way, what's all that stuff in the back of the T-90 turret, just in front of the basket? Is that some kind of interior detail, or is that part open?
Hisham
I found the pic of the interior of the hull.. so, I think there will be some interior, at least
By the way, what's all that stuff in the back of the T-90 turret, just in front of the basket? Is that some kind of interior detail, or is that part open?
Hisham
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Posted: Wednesday, June 01, 2016 - 05:41 PM UTC
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By the way, what's all that stuff in the back of the T-90 turret, just in front of the basket? Is that some kind of interior detail, or is that part open?
Hisham
That part should be closed and it seems it is some kind of storage area! As far as i can see there is some kind of ammo!
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Posted: Wednesday, June 01, 2016 - 06:05 PM UTC
Does the T-90 come with the turned smoke grenade launchers?
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Posted: Wednesday, June 01, 2016 - 06:18 PM UTC
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Does the T-90 come with the turned smoke grenade launchers?
I assume so, since these are supposed to be the built-up samples they will be showing at the Malaysia show.. but nothing is certain yet, as the show hasn't actually started (It will be on this weekend).. these are just pre-show teasers that are showing up on FB.
Hisham
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Posted: Wednesday, June 01, 2016 - 08:35 PM UTC
These look super nice. Competition is always good. More kits, more variety, more choices. Just think if no other company bothered to make a Panther just because Tamiya did one first back in the 70s. Generally speaking, every time a kit is done it is somewhat better than the previous one, sometimes substantially so. There are exceptions of course but for the most part kits of the same subject are improvements of an earlier iteration by a different manufacturer. No complaints from me except for the pricing but given the high cost of almost everything these days that's just life and I just can't but all the kits I would like. Too many choices in our hobby is better than too few.
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Posted: Thursday, June 02, 2016 - 02:59 AM UTC
The T-90ms loos beast. Will have to compare with the trump one and see which one to choose. Competition is good for this hobby
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Posted: Thursday, June 02, 2016 - 06:02 AM UTC
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Posted: Wednesday, July 13, 2016 - 11:18 AM UTC
On preorder at Hobbyeasy for the beginning of August! http://www.hobbyeasy.com/en/data/q3eutqvrk8ucldrutham.html