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Hisham
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Hisham
Joined: July 23, 2004
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Posted: Tuesday, June 07, 2016 - 09:10 PM UTC
Saw this on their FB page.. somebody said it's the interior of a King Tiger... is that right?
Hope this wasn't posted before
Hisham
Hope this wasn't posted before
Hisham
Thirian24
Joined: September 30, 2015
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Posted: Tuesday, June 07, 2016 - 09:16 PM UTC
Interesting. I've still been waiting to hear more from MENG on their KT.
ScottLind
Joined: March 12, 2013
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Posted: Tuesday, June 07, 2016 - 09:43 PM UTC
Definitly a KT interior. Bulkhead and parts of ammo racks
Wierdy
Joined: January 26, 2010
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Posted: Tuesday, June 07, 2016 - 10:07 PM UTC
Yupp, the King Tiger...
slug955
Joined: November 10, 2013
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Posted: Tuesday, June 07, 2016 - 11:02 PM UTC
How many Tigers, King Tigers, Panthers etc can the market support? Surely there are more choices, or are manufacturers just focusing on gimmicks like interiors? But I suppose they have done their market research and found a market for kits with interiors instead of doing them as add ons to basic kits.
Hisham
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Posted: Tuesday, June 07, 2016 - 11:17 PM UTC
Personally, I don't do WWII models anymore, German or otherwise.. but when I go back and look at the pic albums of all the modelling shows I have seen online, I can safely say that WWII, and particularly German, makes up the majority of the models on display.. so, the market for WWII German stuff will always sell big.. especially when they add interiors and working suspensions and whatever else that wasn't in the older kits.. and I really see nothing wrong with that, since it makes these newer companies more money to support the modern, and somewhat "niche" kits they do.. In the end, it all works out well for the benefit of modelers in general
Hisham
Hisham
Hellrabbit
Joined: June 28, 2015
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Posted: Tuesday, June 07, 2016 - 11:25 PM UTC
panther.
kjoy
Joined: September 11, 2005
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Posted: Wednesday, June 08, 2016 - 12:02 AM UTC
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panther.
Bergpanther
slug955
Joined: November 10, 2013
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Posted: Wednesday, June 08, 2016 - 12:09 AM UTC
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Bergpanther
Would be a change, AND most of the interior visible too!
Kevlar06
Joined: March 15, 2009
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Posted: Wednesday, June 08, 2016 - 01:25 AM UTC
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Personally, I don't do WWII models anymore, German or otherwise.. but when I go back and look at the pic albums of all the modelling shows I have seen online, I can safely say that WWII, and particularly German, makes up the majority of the models on display.. so, the market for WWII German stuff will always sell big.. especially when they add interiors and working suspensions and whatever else that wasn't in the older kits.. and I really see nothing wrong with that, since it makes these newer companies more money to support the modern, and somewhat "niche" kits they do.. In the end, it all works out well for the benefit of modelers in general
I don't buy German armor anymore unless it has an interior because I only use Axis armor in dioramas to depict knocked out vehicles being bypassed by the real victors of WWII. I just wish one mainstream manufacturer would come up with an M4, Churchill, Crusader, M5, or even some modern western armored vehicles with complete interiors. Academy has an M3 and a Grant/Lee with crew space interiors, but that's about it. Heck, there was a complete absence of WWI vehicles with interiors a few years ago, but now we now have an FT17, Mark I-V, and A7V with an interior. How come there are so few/no modern era allied/western armored vehicles with interiors? Where's that Patton or Sherman series with an interior?
VR, Russ
TigerFan182
Joined: June 07, 2014
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Posted: Wednesday, June 08, 2016 - 01:29 AM UTC
Certainly a King Tiger firewall, fuel filler tank, ammo rack parts and final drive. I'm waiting for more details on the Meng kit as I doubt they got David Parker on board to assist with an exterior only model.
Not so sure the increasing trend of including interiors is a gimmick. Trumpeter appear to be doing very well with their 1/16 kits. Miniart has started heading down that path and I imagine RFM did quite well with their Tiger I. Maybe this is what the market is starting to demand.
The King Tiger is a good starting point. The research has mostly been done and is freely available online. It is a subject that will certainly sell so a good way of testing the waters.
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How many Tigers, King Tigers, Panthers etc can the market support? Surely there are more choices, or are manufacturers just focusing on gimmicks like interiors? But I suppose they have done their market research and found a market for kits with interiors instead of doing them as add ons to basic kits.
Not so sure the increasing trend of including interiors is a gimmick. Trumpeter appear to be doing very well with their 1/16 kits. Miniart has started heading down that path and I imagine RFM did quite well with their Tiger I. Maybe this is what the market is starting to demand.
The King Tiger is a good starting point. The research has mostly been done and is freely available online. It is a subject that will certainly sell so a good way of testing the waters.
slug955
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Posted: Wednesday, June 08, 2016 - 01:54 AM UTC
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Not so sure the increasing trend of including interiors is a gimmick. Trumpeter appear to be doing very well with their 1/16 kits. Miniart has started heading down that path and I imagine RFM did quite well with their Tiger I. Maybe this is what the market is starting to demand
Those who want them will buy them. I have had several kits with interiors that I gave away. I will not be buying kits with interiors if at all possible. They have a cost implication. Some folks are selling the extra bits, but I just can't be that anal, sooner give them away!
ALBOWIE
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Posted: Wednesday, June 08, 2016 - 02:24 AM UTC
Interesting Choice given the quality of KT available in the market but I wish them well with it as i like to see people raising the bar (Interiors).
Five years ago I would have agreed re the German stuff on Comp tables but all the shows I've seen in the last two years online and physically show a much greater field of other than German with Allied even being more dominant at some. The availability of high quality subjects of varying genres has seen a move away from German subject with so many Modern and WW1 subjects now being seen on tables.
As for Kit interiors I would settle for just a basic Sherman Turret interior but a Sherman in plastic with full interior would be Christmas.
Al
Five years ago I would have agreed re the German stuff on Comp tables but all the shows I've seen in the last two years online and physically show a much greater field of other than German with Allied even being more dominant at some. The availability of high quality subjects of varying genres has seen a move away from German subject with so many Modern and WW1 subjects now being seen on tables.
As for Kit interiors I would settle for just a basic Sherman Turret interior but a Sherman in plastic with full interior would be Christmas.
Al
Tojo72
Joined: June 06, 2006
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Posted: Wednesday, June 08, 2016 - 02:28 AM UTC
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How many Tigers, King Tigers, Panthers etc can the market support? Surely there are more choices, or are manufacturers just focusing on gimmicks like interiors? But I suppose they have done their market research and found a market for kits with interiors instead of doing them as add ons to basic kits.
As many as they could !!!
Jennings
Joined: April 30, 2016
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Posted: Wednesday, June 08, 2016 - 03:50 AM UTC
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How many Tigers, King Tigers, Panthers etc can the market support?
As many as the market will support of Bf109s and Fw190s (ad nauseum, in extremis). As long as people keep buying them, and as long as each new kit brings something (features, detail, improved accuracy, more variants) that the ones before it lacked, they'll sell.
Bravo1102
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Posted: Wednesday, June 08, 2016 - 05:02 AM UTC
You know all the Tigers and Panthers out there are different. This offers a modeler choice. Whether that choice is accuracy, detail or how buildable affordable the kit is all these kits of German subjects are not identical.
The other day I went shopping for a coffee maker and found a bewildering variety. But you only need one coffee maker and it's just to make coffee, yet every maker has their version with different bells and whistles. So it's the same with model kits. In the end each one will give you a replica of a German tank but they're not all the same.
That being said, M3. More M3s. Whether medium or light tank, just another M3s.
The other day I went shopping for a coffee maker and found a bewildering variety. But you only need one coffee maker and it's just to make coffee, yet every maker has their version with different bells and whistles. So it's the same with model kits. In the end each one will give you a replica of a German tank but they're not all the same.
That being said, M3. More M3s. Whether medium or light tank, just another M3s.
kjoy
Joined: September 11, 2005
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Posted: Wednesday, June 08, 2016 - 05:06 AM UTC
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Quoted TextPersonally, I don't do WWII models anymore, German or otherwise.. but when I go back and look at the pic albums of all the modelling shows I have seen online, I can safely say that WWII, and particularly German, makes up the majority of the models on display.. so, the market for WWII German stuff will always sell big.. especially when they add interiors and working suspensions and whatever else that wasn't in the older kits.. and I really see nothing wrong with that, since it makes these newer companies more money to support the modern, and somewhat "niche" kits they do.. In the end, it all works out well for the benefit of modelers in general
I don't buy German armor anymore unless it has an interior because I only use Axis armor in dioramas to depict knocked out vehicles being bypassed by the real victors of WWII. I just wish one mainstream manufacturer would come up with an M4, Churchill, Crusader, M5, or even some modern western armored vehicles with complete interiors. Academy has an M3 and a Grant/Lee with crew space interiors, but that's about it. Heck, there was a complete absence of WWI vehicles with interiors a few years ago, but now we now have an FT17, Mark I-V, and A7V with an interior. How come there are so few/no modern era allied/western armored vehicles with interiors? Where's that Patton or Sherman series with an interior?
VR, Russ
I'd be happy to have "through the hatch" interiors.
Chuck4
Joined: November 13, 2013
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Posted: Wednesday, June 08, 2016 - 06:52 PM UTC
I would be much more excited if it were a bergepanther.
How many kits with interior detail can you sell where most of the interior would be utterly invisible if the kit is completed as intended? With bergepanther at least the interior would be visible.
How many kits with interior detail can you sell where most of the interior would be utterly invisible if the kit is completed as intended? With bergepanther at least the interior would be visible.
MikeyBugs95
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Posted: Wednesday, June 08, 2016 - 09:56 PM UTC
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Those who want them will buy them. I have had several kits with interiors that I gave away. I will not be buying kits with interiors if at all possible. They have a cost implication. Some folks are selling the extra bits, but I just can't be that anal, sooner give them away!
Oh, well, if you have any that you're looking to let loose...
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