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Amusing Hobby: Conqueror on Pre-order
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Posted: Sunday, July 31, 2016 - 04:13 AM UTC


The new Conquerors from Amusing Hobby are already available for pre-order.

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If you have comments or questions please post them here.

Thanks!
TankManNick
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Posted: Sunday, July 31, 2016 - 04:54 AM UTC
Looks good - hard tracks PLUS a 'paper-panzer' that's British?! I know we haven't seen it in close up yet but I'm thinking they are going to have to screw it up pretty badly for me NOT to be interested in getting these! :-)
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Posted: Sunday, July 31, 2016 - 04:59 AM UTC
Great news! I seem to remember that there were a few details that were incorrect for the version that this kit represents, I hope they sorted them out.
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Posted: Sunday, July 31, 2016 - 05:06 AM UTC
Elhanan, that's just cruel! not even a hint?
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Posted: Sunday, July 31, 2016 - 07:10 AM UTC
Where's the best online source for Amusing Hobby kits in the US?
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Posted: Sunday, July 31, 2016 - 07:38 AM UTC
Conqueror did see service so not a 'paper" tank.
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Posted: Sunday, July 31, 2016 - 09:19 AM UTC
Oh nice, looks so promising
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Posted: Sunday, July 31, 2016 - 01:12 PM UTC
While the FV215b was a "paper panzer" the Conqueror was definately not!
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Posted: Sunday, July 31, 2016 - 03:28 PM UTC

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Where's the best online source for Amusing Hobby kits in the US?


I believe Pacific Coast Models is the importer/ distributor in USA.
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Posted: Sunday, July 31, 2016 - 04:49 PM UTC
Just found both kits on pre-order from Modelbau Koenig at Euro 54.50 each. I am not aware of any UK importer. Could not find them on far east sites.
Removed by original poster on 08/01/16 - 15:03:00 (GMT).
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Posted: Sunday, July 31, 2016 - 08:03 PM UTC

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Where's the best online source for Amusing Hobby kits in the US?


I believe Pacific Coast Models is the importer/ distributor in USA.


Thanks for mentioning them, I'm familiar with them but not sure I would have made the connection.
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Posted: Sunday, July 31, 2016 - 09:57 PM UTC

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Conqueror did see service so not a 'paper" tank.



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While the FV215b was a "paper panzer" the Conqueror was definately not!


Well of course the FV215b! (The full news report had both.) To be accurate, since a wooden mockup was made this should be a 'wooden', rather than 'paper' panzer!

The point is though that this is a frickin' British Cold War mockup and I'm gobsmacked to be actually getting a model of this! Heck I've wanted a Conqueror for well nigh 50 years - and this is just 'icing on the cake'!! I mean it's got 3 strikes against it. It's not German, it's not WWII...... and it's not German!

(I'll send a medal to the first one who posts a picture of this guy in German marking and camouflage! Come you KNOW someone will!)

OK rambling post just psyched up to see it actually happening!
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Posted: Sunday, July 31, 2016 - 10:31 PM UTC
Begs the question 'who is to be first to market with a low cost resin upgrade to Mk2, and stick it to Dragon'? Not a sniff of DS tracks and at less than Euros 60, a good price for a big kit.
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Posted: Monday, August 01, 2016 - 02:23 AM UTC
the centurion,conqueror,and the challenger 1 and 2. three(3) types of british tanks post ww2.
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Posted: Monday, August 01, 2016 - 02:30 AM UTC
i can forget the chieftain mbt.
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Posted: Monday, August 01, 2016 - 03:21 AM UTC
Looks like individual links for the tracks, encouraging.
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Posted: Monday, August 01, 2016 - 04:24 AM UTC

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Begs the question 'who is to be first to market with a low cost resin upgrade to Mk2, and stick it to Dragon'?


Probably no one. "Low cost" is the first hurdle they'd have to jump but there are more significant ones:

1. The pace of new releases is so fast that a resin company would be a high risk of being "stuck" by a new Amusing kit.

2. Correcting errors doesn't make the weathering look better after painting so most modelers are happy to do without.

KL
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Posted: Monday, August 01, 2016 - 04:56 AM UTC

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Begs the question 'who is to be first to market with a low cost resin upgrade to Mk2, and stick it to Dragon'?



2. Correcting errors doesn't make the weathering look better after painting so most modelers are happy to do without.

KL




You mean there's more to building that a nice paint job?
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Posted: Monday, August 01, 2016 - 05:07 AM UTC

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Where's the best online source for Amusing Hobby kits in the US?


I believe Pacific Coast Models is the importer/ distributor in USA.


Thanks for mentioning them, I'm familiar with them but not sure I would have made the connection.


Pacmodels does not have the Conqueror available for pre-order.
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Posted: Monday, August 01, 2016 - 07:05 AM UTC

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Looks good - hard tracks PLUS a 'paper-panzer' that's British?! I know we haven't seen it in close up yet but I'm thinking they are going to have to screw it up pretty badly for me NOT to be interested in getting these! :-)


Not a Paper Panzer, actually saw service although the Mk 1 in lesser numbers
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Posted: Monday, August 01, 2016 - 12:18 PM UTC

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Begs the question 'who is to be first to market with a low cost resin upgrade to Mk2, and stick it to Dragon'?


Probably no one. "Low cost" is the first hurdle they'd have to jump but there are more significant ones:

1. The pace of new releases is so fast that a resin company would be a high risk of being "stuck" by a new Amusing kit.

2. Correcting errors doesn't make the weathering look better after painting so most modelers are happy to do without.

KL
Has anyone told the resin manufacturers that? TMD make some nice and low cost parts. The PzIII engine decks are excellent.
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Posted: Monday, August 01, 2016 - 09:03 PM UTC

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Begs the question 'who is to be first to market with a low cost resin upgrade to Mk2, and stick it to Dragon'?


Probably no one. "Low cost" is the first hurdle they'd have to jump but there are more significant ones:

1. The pace of new releases is so fast that a resin company would be a high risk of being "stuck" by a new Amusing kit.

2. Correcting errors doesn't make the weathering look better after painting so most modelers are happy to do without.

KL
Has anyone told the resin manufacturers that? TMD make some nice and low cost parts. The PzIII engine decks are excellent.


I think that the resin manufacturers know this, at least those that manage to do good business

Item 2 above: Many modellers build the kit out of the box, or if the faults are too big they pick another kit instead. Some modellers choose to buy various aftermarket sets to correct and update the original kit. This group of modellers keep the aftermarket firms in operation but update sets will never sell in the same quantities as ordinary kits (if they did then we might see the big producers actually spend some money/resources on getting the kits correctfrom the beginning, sort of include the update set in the original product ...)

Item 1 above: Miniarts SU-85 could be used as an example. First they release an SU-85 and now they are advertising the SU-85 model 1943 early. If an aftermarket company had decided to do a backdate set to convert the first kit into the 1943 early then they would now be stuck with masters, maybe moulds and even unsellable resin castings.
Tamiya and to some extent Italeri didn't exploit their toolings and make variants of vehicles and that provided a market for conversion sets. The newer manufacturers have realised that variants is a clever way of getting more return on the original investment. Some reviews of new kits mention that sprue X has gates included so that it is possible to make variant Y by switching out part Z.
Aftermarket companies need to consider this when doing their investment calculus.

/ Robin
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