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Advice needed on dusting effect
Hisham
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Posted: Sunday, September 25, 2016 - 01:32 AM UTC
I'm doing this Nagmachon for the 500+ campaign and I only have a few days to submit it.. My question is - if I give it a final coat of flat clear (Tamiya spray can) will that tone down all the dust effect? I'm just wondering if I should go heavier on the dust so that it would still look pretty dusty after the flat clear.. The dust is done with pigments, of course.





Hisham

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Posted: Sunday, September 25, 2016 - 01:36 AM UTC
It will tone down the dust effect.Why don't you just leAve it,I never seal my pigments,with careful handling they should hold up okay.

Your build looks good,I like the effect.
Hisham
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Posted: Sunday, September 25, 2016 - 01:39 AM UTC
Thank you... It's just that I had given it a clear gloss coat.. and now there are still some spots that look shiny.. that's why I wanted to give it a final coat of flat

Hisham
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Posted: Sunday, September 25, 2016 - 02:04 AM UTC
After a 25yr lay off I tried the new fangled pigments.(Used to burgle the wifes makeup previously) I found spraying to fix the pigment just caused it to disappear. I reverted to the old high angled spray method. I used to use Floquil Mud and Dust but now use Life Color Tensecrom Dust ( several available.) This old dog is very unteachable.
Hisham
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Posted: Sunday, September 25, 2016 - 11:06 AM UTC
Well, I gave it the flat coat and it didn't tone down the dust... it actually made it disappear completely So, I'm just going to dust it all over again... Just chalk it up to experience

Hisham
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Posted: Sunday, September 25, 2016 - 02:42 PM UTC
Yes, That's what happened to me.....
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Posted: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 - 12:15 AM UTC
Same happened to me Hisham ... don't be annoyed ... after such experience we do it the right way ohn the next model

Cheers
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Posted: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 - 12:33 AM UTC

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Well, I gave it the flat coat and it didn't tone down the dust... it actually made it disappear completely So, I'm just going to dust it all over again... Just chalk it up to experience

Hisham



Hi Hisham,

Once you get your flat coat on (or whatever sheen you choose) is the time to add your pigments. The best way I have found to securing pigments to a model is with Tamiya X-20 thinner. Once you apply the pigments to the model you can apply the thinner in one of those ways: pipette or airbrush. With the pipette, flood an area so that it secures the pigments (typically you shouldn't use all that much thinner and mainly apply to areas that have A LOT of pigments on them). Or you can put some in your airbrush and spray it gently and LIGHTLY over the pigment areas. This will give them a bit more cling and hold them fairly secure. Because when using the pipette as you can get "tide marks" if you apply too much.

After the thinner is dry and you are happy, leave the model alone. No more varnish is required. Just be careful with handling the model as always.

Hope this helps.
Hisham
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Posted: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 - 01:02 AM UTC
I already re-dusted it and submitted it to the campaign. IT was a learning experience.

This is how it looked like after the flat coat.


And this is it after the re-dusting.


So, the X-20 thinner doesn't affect the pigments... and doesn't affect the flat coat or the paint or anything? I assume you would have to spray it at a very low psi so as not to blow the pigments away.

Thanks for the tips.

Hisham
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Posted: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 - 01:57 AM UTC
I think the best is add pigments as last step,i find very interesting tecniques the one show in thease Humbrol video,i made some test and work also with other brand Pigments

http://www.humbrol.com/uk-en/support/humbrol-weathering-powder-product-videos
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Posted: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 - 03:10 AM UTC
Hisham, that really turned out fantastic sir. This is one of my favorite vehicles available today. You did a smashing job of it!

Regards,

Eric
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Posted: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 - 04:30 AM UTC
Thank you for the encouraging words, Eric

Hisham
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Posted: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 - 02:59 PM UTC
Your Nagmachon turned out great, Hisham! I see that the "Droid" is still not finished. I've used a thin purple marker to paint the "eyes".
Hisham
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Posted: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 - 03:16 PM UTC
Thanks, Israel.. and yes, I noticed after taking the pics that I forgot the "eyes".. I have some thin markers also, so I guess I'll use those to paint them.

It's funny how you sometimes don't notice something until afterwards when you're looking at the pics

Hisham
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Posted: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 - 03:41 PM UTC

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It's funny how you sometimes don't notice something until afterwards when you're looking at the pics

Hisham



Oh, yeah...happens to me all the time...
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