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AMX-13/105 Tank Kit
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Posted: Wednesday, October 05, 2016 - 10:32 PM UTC
For those who were waiting, Takom has come out with this very tank, number 2062.

Anyone know who used this model and when?
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Posted: Wednesday, October 05, 2016 - 11:00 PM UTC
At least the Dutch army had a number of them.

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Posted: Wednesday, October 05, 2016 - 11:35 PM UTC
This particular kit has also markings for two vehicles used by the Argentine Army one olive drab and one more recent with two tone cammo.
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Posted: Wednesday, October 05, 2016 - 11:35 PM UTC
AFAIK, most of the Dutch AMX-13/105 have been sold to Indonesia :



Here's a Dutch one :



H.P.
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Posted: Wednesday, October 05, 2016 - 11:40 PM UTC
It's been used also by other Latin American Armies (Chile, Venezuela, Peru, Ecuador)

Argentina purchased a first batch on 1969 and has almost completely phased them out already. By the late seventies they upgraded them with the addition of a diesel engine.
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Posted: Wednesday, October 05, 2016 - 11:47 PM UTC
From what I've seen, the included decals provude marking for 1 Dutch vehicle and 1 Argentinian one.
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Posted: Thursday, October 06, 2016 - 12:04 AM UTC
Thanks! I was thinking of using the Dutch one for 1962 if they had that in service then.

And why that one? It has a metal barrel, and I am hopeless with two-part plastic barrels. Which is why I won't build the AMX-13/90.
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Posted: Thursday, October 06, 2016 - 12:41 AM UTC

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Thanks! I was thinking of using the Dutch one for 1962 if they had that in service then.


According to Wikipedia, the Dutch Army bought them in 1961...

https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/AMX_13

You can even use Google translator if necessary to translate this article about AMX-13's in Dutch service :

http://www.militairmagazijn.nl/voertuigen/armamentaria/artikel/voertuigen_armas_xml_d350752e-1abf-44cd-8eb0-cfed1d925bc7/

But I'm not sure they were already deployed in 1962 (judging by the charts included in this article)

H.P.
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Posted: Thursday, October 06, 2016 - 01:21 AM UTC
Except you don't have to deal with the kit barrel on Takom's 13/90 at all. Mr Modellbau already does a single part metal barrel for the gun.
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Posted: Thursday, October 06, 2016 - 01:29 AM UTC
Some useful info here...
http://tanknutdave.com/the-french-amx-13-tank/
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Posted: Thursday, October 06, 2016 - 03:17 AM UTC
I like the Peruvian MX 13/105, with the sagger missiles.




I always wanted to do a conversion but converting the Heller kit seemed like too much work, maybe I'll reconsider and get this kit.
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Posted: Thursday, October 06, 2016 - 04:07 AM UTC

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Thanks for the heads up! I guess any of the Takom kits would be apocryphal.
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Posted: Thursday, October 06, 2016 - 09:48 AM UTC

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Thanks for the heads up! I guess any of the Takom kits would be apocryphal.

I spoke too soon. Takom DOES make the version with the 75mm gun. Wonder if it has, or I can get, a metal barrel?
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Posted: Thursday, October 06, 2016 - 11:55 AM UTC

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AFAIK, most of the Dutch AMX-13/105 have been sold to Indonesia :



Here's a Dutch one :



H.P.


Nice color profilte but wrong idler. The late 2D chassis with 4 return rollers had the late molded idler wheel with "ribs" and not the early one with 6 holes (which was wider by the way).

Olivier
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Posted: Thursday, October 06, 2016 - 05:14 PM UTC

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Nice color profilte but wrong idler. The late 2D chassis with 4 return rollers had the late molded idler wheel with "ribs" and not the early one with 6 holes (which was wider by the way).


Hi Olivier

Thanks for the info. I must admit I can't vouch for the accuracy of the drawings that can be found on this website (www.tanks-encyclopedia.com...)

H.P.
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Posted: Thursday, October 06, 2016 - 06:40 PM UTC

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It's been used also by other Latin American Armies (Chile, Venezuela, Peru, Ecuador)


The Chilean Army only operated a handful of the AMX MK F3 SPG version, though.

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Posted: Thursday, October 06, 2016 - 09:22 PM UTC

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Hi Olivier
Thanks for the info. I must admit I can't vouch for the accuracy of the drawings that can be found on this website (www.tanks-encyclopedia.com...)
H.P.


Unfortunately this is typical of the site you mention.
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Posted: Thursday, October 06, 2016 - 09:33 PM UTC

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Thanks! I was thinking of using the Dutch one for 1962 if they had that in service then.


According to Wikipedia, the Dutch Army bought them in 1961...

https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/AMX_13

You can even use Google translator if necessary to translate this article about AMX-13's in Dutch service :

http://www.militairmagazijn.nl/voertuigen/armamentaria/artikel/voertuigen_armas_xml_d350752e-1abf-44cd-8eb0-cfed1d925bc7/

But I'm not sure they were already deployed in 1962 (judging by the charts included in this article)

H.P.


The AMX light tanks were used by guard and scout tank battalions, guard and scout tank eskadrons and infantry anti tank units. The infantry used them until 1974, the scout eskadrons until 1984.
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