Then there is also water, watery mud and muddy water... It is easy to imagine that a lot of the sprocket would have been submerged in the water as the tank came down the slope.
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Panzer IV wheel help
firstcircle
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Posted: Monday, October 17, 2016 - 10:55 PM UTC
easyco69
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Posted: Monday, October 17, 2016 - 11:10 PM UTC
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Quoted TextQuoted TextThe main body of the wheel was cast. The ring with the teeth was bolted on. It I believe was drop forged. The ring would bend. The wheel would shatter.
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So was the bolts on the body of the wheel(where the inner teeth are), the outer ring was bolted on with the hubcap?
How was the whole wheel attached to axle? nut under the hubcap?
I would really appreciate if someone knows where to find refence pictures, I tried googling around but came up with nothing
I have the hubcap still, but tought if I could represent this without it, but if nothing else I will have to use it and "remove" the nuts and make only pinbolts somehow.
ps. Thanks for the input so far, both of you!
It's neither an actual reference photo nor something out of a technical manual. Dragon has these Pz IV superkits where the assembly of the sprocket may already be a small build in itself. Will this help you, at least visualize how things may have gone together?
They also go a little farther in the gearbox...with actual gears in the build. Have you come across those yet?
Bravo1102
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Posted: Tuesday, October 18, 2016 - 07:38 AM UTC
Some out here spent years maintaining and operating armored vehicles. So we know how things go wrong without anyone ever getting shot at. One time i had a burning idler wheel. That idler wheel didn't burn because it was shot at, it burned because no one greased the hub.
The fender got all ripped up because someone wasn't watching where he was swinging the gun barrel. Tanks are big heavy things, but not every fitting is big and heavy and get "bent" for all kinds of reasons without anyone firing a shot.
One origin of the term "treadhead" has it being the description of an armored crewman whose head was as dense as a track block.
The fender got all ripped up because someone wasn't watching where he was swinging the gun barrel. Tanks are big heavy things, but not every fitting is big and heavy and get "bent" for all kinds of reasons without anyone firing a shot.
One origin of the term "treadhead" has it being the description of an armored crewman whose head was as dense as a track block.
Posted: Tuesday, October 18, 2016 - 10:14 AM UTC
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Quoted TextQuoted TextQuoted TextThe main body of the wheel was cast. The ring with the teeth was bolted on. It I believe was drop forged. The ring would bend. The wheel would shatter.
G
So was the bolts on the body of the wheel(where the inner teeth are), the outer ring was bolted on with the hubcap?
How was the whole wheel attached to axle? nut under the hubcap?
I would really appreciate if someone knows where to find refence pictures, I tried googling around but came up with nothing
I have the hubcap still, but tought if I could represent this without it, but if nothing else I will have to use it and "remove" the nuts and make only pinbolts somehow.
ps. Thanks for the input so far, both of you!
It's neither an actual reference photo nor something out of a technical manual. Dragon has these Pz IV superkits where the assembly of the sprocket may already be a small build in itself. Will this help you, at least visualize how things may have gone together?
They also go a little farther in the gearbox...with actual gears in the build. Have you come across those yet?
You mean this?
Putting in four of these bolts per side was a real test of patience and perseverance
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TDZepp
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Posted: Wednesday, October 19, 2016 - 10:44 PM UTC
Only person who can say im wasting my prior work/time because of this is me.
I dont feel I am so I am not, its simple. If someone feels otherwise its their problem.
I am intimitated to do this worse than I could just to rustle some jimmies
Will post pics of my progress some other time in other thread
I dont feel I am so I am not, its simple. If someone feels otherwise its their problem.
I am intimitated to do this worse than I could just to rustle some jimmies
Will post pics of my progress some other time in other thread
KruppCake
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Posted: Wednesday, October 19, 2016 - 11:14 PM UTC
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Only person who can say im wasting my prior work/time because of this is me.
I dont feel I am so I am not, its simple. If someone feels otherwise its their problem.
I am intimitated to do this worse than I could just to rustle some jimmies
Will post pics of my progress some other time in other thread
It's a hobby meant for fun and as a creative outlet. Ignore negativity and just have fun with the build. Every model is a learning experience.
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Posted: Thursday, October 20, 2016 - 01:18 AM UTC
Its YOUR model do it the WAY YOU LIKE noone has the Right to tell you different
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firstcircle
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Posted: Thursday, October 20, 2016 - 04:03 AM UTC
Probably time for bed everyone...
Posted: Thursday, October 20, 2016 - 04:16 AM UTC
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Only person who can say im wasting my prior work/time because of this is me.
I dont feel I am so I am not, its simple. If someone feels otherwise its their problem.
I am intimitated to do this worse than I could just to rustle some jimmies
Will post pics of my progress some other time in other thread
Spot on.
KruppCake
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Posted: Thursday, October 20, 2016 - 04:20 AM UTC
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Probably time for bed everyone...
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Frenchy
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Posted: Friday, October 21, 2016 - 12:21 AM UTC
Maybe it's just me, but the more this thread goes on, the more it reminds me of the "handbrush vs airbrush" thread just one year ago...
H.P.
H.P.
KruppCake
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Posted: Friday, October 21, 2016 - 12:36 AM UTC
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Maybe it's just me, but the more this thread goes on, the more it reminds me of the "handbrush vs airbrush" thread just one year ago...
H.P.
O definitely hand brush. Airbrushes are overrated.
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firstcircle
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Posted: Friday, October 21, 2016 - 12:59 AM UTC
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Maybe it's just me, but the more this thread goes on, the more it reminds me of the "handbrush vs airbrush" thread just one year ago.
Did "basket weaving" get a mention in that one too?