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Takom's V-2.. couple of pics from Telford
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Posted: Monday, November 14, 2016 - 09:13 PM UTC
David Green posted these on FB.









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Posted: Monday, November 14, 2016 - 09:19 PM UTC
I didn't want to buy it, but this will be hard to resist...


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Christophe
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Posted: Monday, November 14, 2016 - 10:43 PM UTC
I'm definitely putting my resin Meilerwagen kit on eBay and getting one of these even though I already have a V-2 and an SS-100.
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Posted: Monday, November 14, 2016 - 11:54 PM UTC
Well I can say one thing for sure it is far better than the Resin kit we had.
I already did sell my resin PSP Meilerwagen some money to invest in this Takom Meiller.

But I also have already some problems seeing this model.
1e the hydrolic is powered by a electric motor, this is a British operation backfire item the Germans did use a stationary volkswagen
engine.
2e I'm missing the bands around the rocket for hoisting.
3e also missing a lot of small items at the table.

If my info is correct they did visit the British Meillerwagen and not the most compleet one in Australia.

Asfar as I can judge the rocket it looks good to me.

So waiting to get it on my workbench.

Greetings

Bert
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Posted: Tuesday, November 15, 2016 - 02:55 AM UTC
I picked up the SS100 last week at my LHS, if the rest of the Meillerwagen and A4 are like it, it's going to be a very nice set. I believe the tires are some type of vinyl. I'm a little perplexed by the markings on them-- a double diamond between Kleber Colombes, "ERG and the words "extra reinforce" and "protecteur nylon" in tiny print on the other side of the tire wall. Additionally, the numbers D-4-20 and 10.00-20 for tire pressure appear. Seems a little unusual wording for German tires. The SS100 has a full engine, but the back of the radiator grill is empty (no radiator) and the vented side panels for the engine are molded in the plastic, so they can't be posed open. The instructions also show three different schemes-- with two others on the box sides, but this is where some confusion sets in. The outside of the box shows a scheme for Berlin Templehof in 1942 all in gray, and a dunklegelb SS100 with a green overspray operating in Belgium in 1944. The instructions proper have vehicles for Berlin Templehof 1942 (in gray, same as the box exterior), one in dunklegelb at Peenemunde in 1943, and one at Nordhausen in1945 in an overall "olivgrun". Only the vehicle from Berlin Templehof 1942 has any license plate call outs, numbers are given for multiple vehicles, but only enough frames and backgrounds exist for two vehicles-- maybe they're giving you an option to come up with fictitious plates. Other than these minor issues, it appears to be a great kit, let's hope the Meillerwagen and launch stand are equally good. They look good in the photos. I bought this one to pose with my scratchbuilt Vidalwagen, replacing an Italeri SWS. It would have been nice to have a little more info on the Belgian camouflage version in the instructions, V2 units operated in the Ardennes, but are more famous for operating in the Netherlands.
VR Russ
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Posted: Tuesday, November 15, 2016 - 06:39 AM UTC
For sale Dragon V2......
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Posted: Tuesday, November 15, 2016 - 07:00 AM UTC
Looks Outstanding.... I need one now!!

Rounds Complete!!
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Posted: Tuesday, November 15, 2016 - 07:37 AM UTC
Very nice!
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Posted: Sunday, January 01, 2017 - 01:29 AM UTC

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the tires are some type of vinyl. I'm a little perplexed by the markings on them-- a double diamond between Kleber Colombes, "ERG and the words "extra reinforce" and "protecteur nylon" in tiny print on the other side of the tire wall.



Russ you are right these are not the tyres we want, these are made after the war in France. the Hanomag production was going trough under the French command. TAKOM has used a French Hanomag as basis for there model. so hopefully there wil be a resin producer who makes us the right type of tyres with the correct profile. If you build the Hanomag for a V-2 setting the most useful colour wil be German yellow the colour of the last part of the war.

Greetings Bert
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Posted: Sunday, January 01, 2017 - 01:45 AM UTC

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the tires are some type of vinyl. I'm a little perplexed by the markings on them-- a double diamond between Kleber Colombes, "ERG and the words "extra reinforce" and "protecteur nylon" in tiny print on the other side of the tire wall.



Russ you are right these are not the tyres we want, these are made after the war in France. the Hanomag production was going trough under the French command. TAKOM has used a French Hanomag as basis for there model. so hopefully there wil be a resin producer who makes us the right type of tyres with the correct profile. If you build the Hanomag for a V-2 setting the most useful colour wil be German yellow the colour of the last part of the war.

Greetings Bert



FYI: KLeber is a brand of Michelin: The only diffrence between a Kleber tire nad a Michelin tire is a different brabd placard. Cheers from a former Michelin emplyee.
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Posted: Sunday, January 01, 2017 - 01:53 AM UTC

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the tires are some type of vinyl. I'm a little perplexed by the markings on them-- a double diamond between Kleber Colombes, "ERG and the words "extra reinforce" and "protecteur nylon" in tiny print on the other side of the tire wall.



Russ you are right these are not the tyres we want, these are made after the war in France. the Hanomag production was going trough under the French command. TAKOM has used a French Hanomag as basis for there model. so hopefully there wil be a resin producer who makes us the right type of tyres with the correct profile. If you build the Hanomag for a V-2 setting the most useful colour wil be German yellow the colour of the last part of the war.

Greetings Bert



Bert,
Thanks for the clarification-- there was another review on a separate site a couple of days ago that was referenced here on Armorama. The author "sent his Hanomag to Valhalla" because he found the detail on it to be "toylike" and he didn't like the tires and wheels. Personally, I don't think the kit is too bad except for the tires and some detail that can be fixed-- it's a lot easier than the $100 plus resin kit, that's for sure. I recognized the tires were bogus from the beginning-- but I'm not sure if the tread pattern wasn't actually used on German vehicles-- if so, all one would have to do is remove the sidewall lettering. As for me, I've scratch built a Vidalwagen using the Italeri Opel Blitz kit as a donor for the tires and wheels, and I've been experimenting with the extra tires from that build--- I think the Opel Blitz tires may actually fit the Takom hubs-- if someone wanted to bother to change them out. For now, I'll wait on the aftermarket that's almost sure to follow the kit. Hans-Herman, thanks for the info-- are you saying that these tires might have been seen on a German vehicle in WWII?
VR, Russ
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Posted: Sunday, January 01, 2017 - 02:27 AM UTC

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Hans-Herman, thanks for the info-- are you saying that these tires might have been seen on a German vehicle in WWII?
VR, Russ



A quick search on the history of Kleber shows that although the company was around at the beginning of the century they did not use the Kleber name until after the second world war, so the name on the tires are wrong for a wartime vehicle.

Quote from Oponeo - The story of Kleber tyres:
'After the Second World War, the french firm loosened its links from BFGoodrich. This involved a move, from Colombes, to Paris, where it found a location for its new headquarters on Kléber Avenue. Since the company needed a new name, it used its address as part of this. Its full name was Pneumatiques, Caoutchouc Manufacture et Plastique Kleber-Colombes, but it was often known as Kleber-Colombes. A new logo was also designed, set on a blue and orange background.'
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Posted: Sunday, January 01, 2017 - 03:51 AM UTC
This Is A MUST HAVE!
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Posted: Sunday, January 01, 2017 - 04:04 AM UTC

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Hans-Herman, thanks for the info-- are you saying that these tires might have been seen on a German vehicle in WWII?
VR, Russ



A quick search on the history of Kleber shows that although the company was around at the beginning of the century they did not use the Kleber name until after the second world war, so the name on the tires are wrong for a wartime vehicle.

Quote from Oponeo - The story of Kleber tyres:
'After the Second World War, the french firm loosened its links from BFGoodrich. This involved a move, from Colombes, to Paris, where it found a location for its new headquarters on Kléber Avenue. Since the company needed a new name, it used its address as part of this. Its full name was Pneumatiques, Caoutchouc Manufacture et Plastique Kleber-Colombes, but it was often known as Kleber-Colombes. A new logo was also designed, set on a blue and orange background.'



Thanks Luciano for that information, I guess we'll be "scraping the side walls" now. I'm still wondering if the tread pattern is correct for the tractor or the Miellorwagen and Vidalwagen-- if it's like some US towed vehicles, civil tread patterns were used on some trailers.
VR, Russ
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