Ola People
I was Uploading pictures of the fieldtrip and I thought I could just as well put up the latest pics of the Airborne Jeep.
Still Remember her??? to refresh your minds:
Scratchbuilding the Airborne Jeep #1 Assembly
Scratchbuilding the Airborne Jeep #2 Assembly
Scratchbuilding the Airborne Jeep #3 Details
And now it is time for Update #4 The First paint layers and the 37 mm PAK that the Jeep is towing.
First pics of the Airborne Jeep itself:
in the above picture I still have to do some more putty there is a big scratch visible and the holes for the Jerrycanholders )
The above picture shows my first experiment with MIG pastels. They are very good and I`m quite satisfied with the result.
Ok the Jeep awaits it`s Weathering moment.
now let`s go to the 37mm PAK. This one is more or less finished. What I have done since these pics is actually only some Foliage used as Camouflage and that`s it. I used a method of applying Camostripes with diluted enamels So actually the Camo was more or less "washed" on. This gun was my second attempt at weathering with Pigments from MIG:
the right wheel looks a bit skewed that`s because it was not attached yet when the pic was made only assembled it for the pic
Ok As always I really like to know what you think of it. Suggestions, Info, critics good and bad everything my skin is thick enough :-) :-) :-) Feedback everything is welcome.
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Scratchbuilding the Airborne Jeep #4
Posted: Monday, February 23, 2004 - 09:05 AM UTC
Paul
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Posted: Monday, February 23, 2004 - 09:38 AM UTC
Looks good, can't wait to see it weathered. The weathering on the gun is very realistic.
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Posted: Monday, February 23, 2004 - 09:40 AM UTC
That is one weathered, battle worn gun...wow.
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Posted: Monday, February 23, 2004 - 09:46 AM UTC
Gadzooks, that's awesome. It may be the photograph, by the barrel seems to be kinked just a bit in the head-on view. Very impressive, reagrdless.
Graywolf
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Posted: Monday, February 23, 2004 - 09:55 AM UTC
Ola Robert
very good work. Airborne jeep is on the good way . 37 mm is super,especially the shield of the Pak is amazing. I see you used MIG pigments so good.congrats and willing to see it over soon.
very good work. Airborne jeep is on the good way . 37 mm is super,especially the shield of the Pak is amazing. I see you used MIG pigments so good.congrats and willing to see it over soon.
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Posted: Monday, February 23, 2004 - 10:15 AM UTC
Robert -- Looking pretty good so far. I think that gun is coming along nicely.
One comment about the jeep: The muffler is hanging very low. It should be right up snug to the bottom of the body.
One comment about the jeep: The muffler is hanging very low. It should be right up snug to the bottom of the body.
leogunner
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Posted: Monday, February 23, 2004 - 10:40 AM UTC
Hey Faust,
Just a question on the photo. Where did you find it? I know the germans were quick to use allied equipment, but how did they end up with the jeep I wonder? That is a pretty well used PAK! I like the heavy weathering on the gun. Those field guns were busually beaten around pretty good during their lifespan.
Just a question on the photo. Where did you find it? I know the germans were quick to use allied equipment, but how did they end up with the jeep I wonder? That is a pretty well used PAK! I like the heavy weathering on the gun. Those field guns were busually beaten around pretty good during their lifespan.
MrRoo
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Posted: Monday, February 23, 2004 - 10:45 AM UTC
Rob that is excellent work. If the jeep comes up as well as the gun you will have a real nice dio. Now you say you used pigments! How do these differ fron pastel chalk? Are they easier to use? How about doing a review of them for the site, I am sure that a lot of people would be interested in one!.
Posted: Monday, February 23, 2004 - 11:28 AM UTC
Ola Guys
That are a lot of replies in such a short time :-) :-) :-)
Ok here goes first of all thanks for all the comments guys.
part-timer
That`s what goes around in my mind since I assembled it I will look at it tomorrow. Most likely it is not the pic but is it indeed kinked. If it is I try to repair that tomorrow. Or... I leave it that way and the germans will have some troubles firing their gun #:-) #:-)
Hollowpoint
Actually nothing of the Jeep is assembled permanently as for the ease of painting. When the body is glued on top of the chassis the Muffler will be glued to the body too.
LeoGunner
I found the pic somewhere on the web don`t know exactly from wich site I had it but the pics wich holds the scene I`m building comes from the book German Armoured Units at Arnhem September 1944 from Concord Written by Marcel Zwarts. Though the book does not go very deep into the fact that the Gun is towed by a Jeep It`s most likely that in the advance to Arnhem the allies get pushed back and had to leave vehicles behind in perfect condition. This way the germans should be able to get their hands on some certain amounts of Allied equipment. I have several pictures here and I have seen a couple more online of Allied Airborne Jeeps in German Hands.
Cliff
Yeah I bought the MIG pigments at the Armorama KMK workshop last novembre and I didn`t use them untill now. In my opinion they are not only easier to use they are more versatile either. I think the main difference is that normal pastel chalk is More dry then Pigments. Pigments have a bit of a greasy feeling in it. When using pastels you always have to seal the surface you used pastels on and when you blow at the surface you just lost your pastels and Pigments tend to stick from theirselfes. The wheels of the PAK are done with Europe dust pigment diluted in Turpentine and brushed on. It dried full of streaks Then I took a brush with quite stiff bristles and started to whipe off the excess only leaving pigments in the Profile of the tires and a nice coloration of the black tires wich give them a nice dusty look. The Same Pigment colour was used to dust up the gunshield only here it was brushed on dry worked fine and it stuck nicely on the places I wanted it to do.
With Black smoke I weathering the barrels end and that was superb. I used to do that witha wash or drybrush but I brushed the Black smoke on it dry and you got the nice discoloration of the basecolor that you get when stuff get`s heated.
Another thing I have to say is that in the first pic of the gun......
This one. The silvery shiny parts of the gunshield`s edges are not pastels. Pastels are good for dusting and other weathering thingies. The silver shiny bits are not drybrushed silver but that is done with an ordinary pencil and I simply drawed on the edges and I used it on the corner on the right of the gunshield. The pencil will result in a super realistic metal finish.
I hope I answered enough of your questions if you have more I like to hear it
And I`m working on an article about the use of Pigments. I hope it will come soon :-)
That are a lot of replies in such a short time :-) :-) :-)
Ok here goes first of all thanks for all the comments guys.
part-timer
Quoted Text
It may be the photograph, by the barrel seems to be kinked just a bit in the head-on view
That`s what goes around in my mind since I assembled it I will look at it tomorrow. Most likely it is not the pic but is it indeed kinked. If it is I try to repair that tomorrow. Or... I leave it that way and the germans will have some troubles firing their gun #:-) #:-)
Hollowpoint
Quoted Text
One comment about the jeep: The muffler is hanging very low. It should be right up snug to the bottom of the body.
Actually nothing of the Jeep is assembled permanently as for the ease of painting. When the body is glued on top of the chassis the Muffler will be glued to the body too.
LeoGunner
Quoted Text
Just a question on the photo. Where did you find it? I know the germans were quick to use allied equipment, but how did they end up with the jeep I wonder?
I found the pic somewhere on the web don`t know exactly from wich site I had it but the pics wich holds the scene I`m building comes from the book German Armoured Units at Arnhem September 1944 from Concord Written by Marcel Zwarts. Though the book does not go very deep into the fact that the Gun is towed by a Jeep It`s most likely that in the advance to Arnhem the allies get pushed back and had to leave vehicles behind in perfect condition. This way the germans should be able to get their hands on some certain amounts of Allied equipment. I have several pictures here and I have seen a couple more online of Allied Airborne Jeeps in German Hands.
Cliff
Quoted Text
Now you say you used pigments! How do these differ fron pastel chalk? Are they easier to use?
Yeah I bought the MIG pigments at the Armorama KMK workshop last novembre and I didn`t use them untill now. In my opinion they are not only easier to use they are more versatile either. I think the main difference is that normal pastel chalk is More dry then Pigments. Pigments have a bit of a greasy feeling in it. When using pastels you always have to seal the surface you used pastels on and when you blow at the surface you just lost your pastels and Pigments tend to stick from theirselfes. The wheels of the PAK are done with Europe dust pigment diluted in Turpentine and brushed on. It dried full of streaks Then I took a brush with quite stiff bristles and started to whipe off the excess only leaving pigments in the Profile of the tires and a nice coloration of the black tires wich give them a nice dusty look. The Same Pigment colour was used to dust up the gunshield only here it was brushed on dry worked fine and it stuck nicely on the places I wanted it to do.
With Black smoke I weathering the barrels end and that was superb. I used to do that witha wash or drybrush but I brushed the Black smoke on it dry and you got the nice discoloration of the basecolor that you get when stuff get`s heated.
Another thing I have to say is that in the first pic of the gun......
This one. The silvery shiny parts of the gunshield`s edges are not pastels. Pastels are good for dusting and other weathering thingies. The silver shiny bits are not drybrushed silver but that is done with an ordinary pencil and I simply drawed on the edges and I used it on the corner on the right of the gunshield. The pencil will result in a super realistic metal finish.
I hope I answered enough of your questions if you have more I like to hear it
And I`m working on an article about the use of Pigments. I hope it will come soon :-)
lestweforget
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Posted: Monday, February 23, 2004 - 10:14 PM UTC
Looks great Bob, cant wait to see it finished, cheers!
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Posted: Tuesday, February 24, 2004 - 12:01 AM UTC
Ola Robert,
Excellent work dude, keep it up.
For the article on MIG pigments, here's an article in English : MIG Pigments
The same article in Dutch : MIG pigmenten
Greetz,
Excellent work dude, keep it up.
For the article on MIG pigments, here's an article in English : MIG Pigments
The same article in Dutch : MIG pigmenten
Greetz,
Posted: Tuesday, February 24, 2004 - 05:49 AM UTC
Ola Guys
thanks for the Comments. If there are more questions I`m always willing to answer
thanks for the Comments. If there are more questions I`m always willing to answer
zer0_co0l
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Posted: Tuesday, February 24, 2004 - 08:59 AM UTC
vewwy nice to say the least robert.
is it common that the glove compartment of the jeep is open?
and did you mask the wheels before you sprayed em? if so with what?
and will their be more changes?
is it common that the glove compartment of the jeep is open?
and did you mask the wheels before you sprayed em? if so with what?
and will their be more changes?
Posted: Tuesday, February 24, 2004 - 09:58 AM UTC
Ola Juul
Well at least it is when somebody opened it to look inside. No I still have to add the Cover to close that gap. That will be added soon.
No I did not mask the wheels. I still paint them in the basecolor and then handpaint the tires wich is not my favourite job to do. I could have masked them as the Eduard PE set I bought for it delivered the masks for the wheels.
Well the jeep will be weathered extensively. The whole dashboard will be taken off because I have to add the meters and stuff. The Jeep will have some Useless abandonned american stuff and in the back it will be loaded with sparewheels and some jerrycans. More of that in the next update.
I hope that answered your questions If there are more questions from anyone please let me know
m:-)
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is it common that the glove compartment of the jeep is open?
Well at least it is when somebody opened it to look inside. No I still have to add the Cover to close that gap. That will be added soon.
Quoted Text
and did you mask the wheels before you sprayed em? if so with what?
No I did not mask the wheels. I still paint them in the basecolor and then handpaint the tires wich is not my favourite job to do. I could have masked them as the Eduard PE set I bought for it delivered the masks for the wheels.
Quoted Text
and will their be more changes?
Well the jeep will be weathered extensively. The whole dashboard will be taken off because I have to add the meters and stuff. The Jeep will have some Useless abandonned american stuff and in the back it will be loaded with sparewheels and some jerrycans. More of that in the next update.
I hope that answered your questions If there are more questions from anyone please let me know
m:-)
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Posted: Tuesday, February 24, 2004 - 10:15 AM UTC
Superb!! It's gonne be a real nice one Faust! Congrats!
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Posted: Tuesday, February 24, 2004 - 10:33 PM UTC
Beauty!
The Jeep is excellent and can't wait to see it given the samr treatment as thePAK.
Well done FAUST...
Cheers
Peter
:-)
The Jeep is excellent and can't wait to see it given the samr treatment as thePAK.
Well done FAUST...
Cheers
Peter
:-)
Posted: Wednesday, February 25, 2004 - 02:01 AM UTC
Ola guys
Thanks for the replies.
I hope the weathering of the Jeep will be just as succesfull as the PAK turned out. There are still a lot of things that can go wrong in the weathering process
Thanks for the replies.
I hope the weathering of the Jeep will be just as succesfull as the PAK turned out. There are still a lot of things that can go wrong in the weathering process
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Posted: Wednesday, February 25, 2004 - 02:33 AM UTC
Lord Faust,
Pardon me for such late post. I have been watching closely on the progress of this project for sometimes, all I can say is it looked great. As I am not an expert on anything allies, so I can only judge how well the whole thing is built, and paint. The weathering on the 37mm is excellent.
Truely a great project!
Beware of dogs and bees, my friend.
Pardon me for such late post. I have been watching closely on the progress of this project for sometimes, all I can say is it looked great. As I am not an expert on anything allies, so I can only judge how well the whole thing is built, and paint. The weathering on the 37mm is excellent.
Truely a great project!
Beware of dogs and bees, my friend.
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Posted: Wednesday, February 25, 2004 - 02:55 AM UTC
Nice PAK I like it a lot.
The jeep is well done. What are the two vertical 'dents' in the back of the jeep to the right of the hitch at the top of the panel?
I personally am a fan of adding texture to leather seats, any plans of tissue on those seats?
The jeep is well done. What are the two vertical 'dents' in the back of the jeep to the right of the hitch at the top of the panel?
I personally am a fan of adding texture to leather seats, any plans of tissue on those seats?
Posted: Wednesday, February 25, 2004 - 03:27 AM UTC
Ola guys
Thanks again for the replies.
Scott (Slodder)
Those 2 dents are actually the holes where the holder for the sparewheel should come. As it is not on the Airborne Jeep I had to fill the holes. They looked good before the sparying so maybe it is a weird reaction of the thinner that I use for diluting the paint.
Actually the chairs already have texture. I used sanding paper to rough up the cushions of the seats. I rubbed horizontally and vertically creating a maze of scratches. They do not show up well but they will after painting
Thanks again for the replies.
Scott (Slodder)
Quoted Text
What are the two vertical 'dents' in the back of the jeep to the right of the hitch at the top of the panel?
Those 2 dents are actually the holes where the holder for the sparewheel should come. As it is not on the Airborne Jeep I had to fill the holes. They looked good before the sparying so maybe it is a weird reaction of the thinner that I use for diluting the paint.
Quoted Text
I personally am a fan of adding texture to leather seats, any plans of tissue on those seats?
Actually the chairs already have texture. I used sanding paper to rough up the cushions of the seats. I rubbed horizontally and vertically creating a maze of scratches. They do not show up well but they will after painting