Well, I finally did the red-brown camouflage lines, although they look a bit purplish on the pics...
this is the pre-wheathering phase...
tell me what you think
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Sidney
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Posted: Wednesday, February 25, 2004 - 06:21 AM UTC
crossbow
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Posted: Wednesday, February 25, 2004 - 06:27 AM UTC
Mmhh, nice one Sidney.
One remark though, don't over do it with rust on tracks. parts that come into contact with the road surface or the sprockets never rust, they keep their metallic appearance.
Kris
One remark though, don't over do it with rust on tracks. parts that come into contact with the road surface or the sprockets never rust, they keep their metallic appearance.
Kris
Captain94
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Posted: Wednesday, February 25, 2004 - 06:36 AM UTC
Sidney,
I have a basic airbrush question for ya, as I have yet to try camo on any of my armor yet.
What size tip and how far away from your tank did you hold the brush? Is over spray a problem?
Great looking job! I like what you do!
Thanks!
I have a basic airbrush question for ya, as I have yet to try camo on any of my armor yet.
What size tip and how far away from your tank did you hold the brush? Is over spray a problem?
Great looking job! I like what you do!
Thanks!
Sidney
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Posted: Wednesday, February 25, 2004 - 07:32 AM UTC
@Kris: I weathered the tracks first, cos I knew I couldn't reach them once installed - they will get muddy soon - and I mean muddy
@Captain94: I used my new Iwata airbrush (HP-B Plus) - with the first few strokes, the paint was too thick (it splattered a bit) so I thinned it down a somewhat
after that I held the airbrush about half an inch from the surface, gradually building up a fine line - after that I backed off and made the lines a bit wider. Take care when doing this, accidentily pulling the trigger too much will result in LOADS of paint running down the model...
I have a (simple) Badger 150 too - with the Fine tip and needle, these used to paint the squiggly camouflage lines on the Bf-110 seen below (I normally build aircraft - this is my first armor )
I like my paint the consistency of milk (low fat ) and I keep the airpressure way down - as the Iwata brush is gravity fed, I can turn it down even more compared with the Badger one...
I don't care too much for overspay with armor - after a couple of coats of dullcoat (spelling), washes, pastels, drybrushing etc. you won't notice it that much - besides, the camo was applied in the field in real life... and I bet THEY had overspray too! so it adds to the realism
(if you don't like it, you can moisten a wide brush with a little bit of turpentine and gently wipe away the overspray - done gently, this can give great results!)
One note though - the tank is only in primary colours... it will take some beating in the days to come
@Captain94: I used my new Iwata airbrush (HP-B Plus) - with the first few strokes, the paint was too thick (it splattered a bit) so I thinned it down a somewhat
after that I held the airbrush about half an inch from the surface, gradually building up a fine line - after that I backed off and made the lines a bit wider. Take care when doing this, accidentily pulling the trigger too much will result in LOADS of paint running down the model...
I have a (simple) Badger 150 too - with the Fine tip and needle, these used to paint the squiggly camouflage lines on the Bf-110 seen below (I normally build aircraft - this is my first armor )
I like my paint the consistency of milk (low fat ) and I keep the airpressure way down - as the Iwata brush is gravity fed, I can turn it down even more compared with the Badger one...
I don't care too much for overspay with armor - after a couple of coats of dullcoat (spelling), washes, pastels, drybrushing etc. you won't notice it that much - besides, the camo was applied in the field in real life... and I bet THEY had overspray too! so it adds to the realism
(if you don't like it, you can moisten a wide brush with a little bit of turpentine and gently wipe away the overspray - done gently, this can give great results!)
One note though - the tank is only in primary colours... it will take some beating in the days to come
ArmouredSprue
South Australia, Australia
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Posted: Wednesday, February 25, 2004 - 08:14 AM UTC
Hi!
Nice one!
Does the white cross on the last picture is painted or is decal?
It look so realistic!
Cheers
Nice one!
Does the white cross on the last picture is painted or is decal?
It look so realistic!
Cheers
Captain94
California, United States
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Posted: Wednesday, February 25, 2004 - 08:54 AM UTC
Sidney,
Thanks for your prompt reply
I will make use of your excellent teaching.
Foolish me not to take into account the field application of cammo and the resulting over-spray
Brews on me!
Thanks for your prompt reply
I will make use of your excellent teaching.
Foolish me not to take into account the field application of cammo and the resulting over-spray
Brews on me!
flitzer
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Posted: Wednesday, February 25, 2004 - 06:17 PM UTC
I agree...1. it looks great...I really like the camo.
I agree...2. The rusty tracks need a bit of metal cotntact bits...think of railway lines...rusty but are still metallic where trains wheels come in to contact with them.
Cheers
Peter
I agree...2. The rusty tracks need a bit of metal cotntact bits...think of railway lines...rusty but are still metallic where trains wheels come in to contact with them.
Cheers
Peter
Sidney
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Posted: Wednesday, February 25, 2004 - 07:06 PM UTC
the white cross is a decal, I used Micromark Set and Sol to get it like this
I wanted to weather it a bit, but I tore (spelling) right through it
thanks though
will take more pics after weathering
I wanted to weather it a bit, but I tore (spelling) right through it
thanks though
will take more pics after weathering
Alpenflage
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Posted: Thursday, February 26, 2004 - 04:55 PM UTC
You have a very nice camo scheme going on here, I like it ! I really has the look of a field-applied camoflage. I think I would have done a few spot washes and some dry-brushing here and there, but it really looks great the way it is from the photos.
The Pz Kpfw IV Ausf H/J is a classic kit to build !
Cheers !
Robert
The Pz Kpfw IV Ausf H/J is a classic kit to build !
Cheers !
Robert
Sidney
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Posted: Thursday, February 26, 2004 - 11:18 PM UTC
thanks
weathering is next - first I will apply the markings, after which it will be coated with Dullcoat
then wash, drybrush, chipping, wash, drybrush, some filters and finally some pastels...
weathering is next - first I will apply the markings, after which it will be coated with Dullcoat
then wash, drybrush, chipping, wash, drybrush, some filters and finally some pastels...