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72 Years Ago Today
Jager52
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Posted: Saturday, April 29, 2017 - 12:33 AM UTC
On this weekend 72 years ago the best tank commander ever was killed in action, Kurt Knispel. A true warrior dedicated to his men and what he felt was right.
http://worldwartwo.filminspector.com/2014/07/kurt-knispel-portrait-of-warrior.html
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Posted: Saturday, April 29, 2017 - 01:09 AM UTC
Best tank ace ever 168 kills.
Bodeen
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Posted: Saturday, April 29, 2017 - 02:11 AM UTC
Thanks for this...I am a huge fan of military history and have never heard of Kurt Knispel. I will be researching his story and will attempt to model his last tank. This is so cool. I just got the Meng King Tiger.
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Posted: Saturday, April 29, 2017 - 05:14 AM UTC
Thank you very much for that. It is ggod to see that foks out there like to publish real history.
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Posted: Saturday, April 29, 2017 - 05:49 PM UTC
Sorry but I'll pass on any celebration memorializing this guy. He was fighting for the Nazi's and got his just reward. No big loss to humanity.
PanzerKarl
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Posted: Saturday, April 29, 2017 - 06:31 PM UTC

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Sorry but I'll pass on any celebration memorializing this guy. He was fighting for the Nazi's and got his just reward. No big loss to humanity.



You have been watching too much on the History channel
j76lr
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Posted: Saturday, April 29, 2017 - 07:00 PM UTC

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Sorry but I'll pass on any celebration memorializing this guy. He was fighting for the Nazi's and got his just reward. No big loss to humanity.


i totally agree. ss nazi .
darreng
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Posted: Saturday, April 29, 2017 - 07:18 PM UTC
He wasn't a Nazi that's just the point. He was regular army. Not a member of the SS either. And not all German's were Nazi's. Plus Knispel was Czech by birth.
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Posted: Saturday, April 29, 2017 - 07:35 PM UTC
Hmmm...an opportunity for a Dragon "Special Edition" Knispel Tiger l, Tiger ll, etc.
PanzerKarl
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Posted: Saturday, April 29, 2017 - 07:41 PM UTC

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He wasn't a Nazi that's just the point. He was regular army. Not a member of the SS either. And not all German's were Nazi's. Plus Knispel was Czech by birth.



Someone with a bit of sense

Because you wear a German uniform does not mean your a Nazi.
Chuck4
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Posted: Saturday, April 29, 2017 - 08:04 PM UTC
Successful, sure, but best ever?
TopSmith
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Posted: Saturday, April 29, 2017 - 08:18 PM UTC
One of the reasons he didn't get much notoriety was due to him not being in the party. I don't know of any photo's of his tank.
Chuck4
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Posted: Saturday, April 29, 2017 - 08:50 PM UTC
Also he was a nonconformist who wore a beard and hair far longer than regulation, salute in a manner that makes officers cringe, and generally didn't further the propaganda image of the stiff, brutal and yet slavishly obedient aryan party soldier fawning at an unseen superior or fuhrer just out of the frame.
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Posted: Saturday, April 29, 2017 - 09:20 PM UTC
Seemed to me that this was more in the vein of noting the death of a warrior, as opposed to any celebration or parade. We're all aware that history, especially military history, is written by the victors. But I don't see the rationale for ignoring people simply because they fought on the losing or "wrong" side. If so, then names like Lee, von Richtofen, Yamamoto, and many others, should also be ignored. Respect can be given for their abilities even though their efforts supported terrible causes.
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Posted: Saturday, April 29, 2017 - 09:26 PM UTC
Hans Ulrich-Rudel was the world's most successful bomber pilot. In his case, though, he was a genuine Nazi, even after the war.
Jager52
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Posted: Sunday, April 30, 2017 - 04:45 AM UTC

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Seemed to me that this was more in the vein of noting the death of a warrior, as opposed to any celebration or parade. We're all aware that history, especially military history, is written by the victors. But I don't see the rationale for ignoring people simply because they fought on the losing or "wrong" side. If so, then names like Lee, von Richtofen, Yamamoto, and many others, should also be ignored. Respect can be given for their abilities even though their efforts supported terrible causes.


Thank you. My intent was merely to recognize a valiant and successful warrior and his story. No political agenda intended. Even enemies respect fellow warriors.
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Posted: Sunday, April 30, 2017 - 05:11 AM UTC
Very interesting. The fanfare typically goes Michael Wittmann in this arena. Like how the story explained that too.
Thanks for sharing.
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Posted: Sunday, April 30, 2017 - 05:55 AM UTC
Thanks, VERY interesting. He sounded like a down to earth real hero, one that didn't want notoriety.---John
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Posted: Sunday, April 30, 2017 - 07:20 PM UTC
Great Information! Nothing wrong with learning about real warriors from both sides of any conflict whether they were in the right or in the wrong. No Knights Cross though? Must be because he was not a Nazi party member. Thanks again.
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