Steve - I have built up a stash ( 100 + and counting ) largely 1/48 AC but some softskins / arty as well because I like to - but now I can use the "planning for retirement " excuse - I also have three Nortons to tinker with and I'm sure you know they need their share of attention and then some .
BTW - love the tasty Fastback in your pic .
Cheers - Richard
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rdt1953
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Posted: Wednesday, May 31, 2017 - 01:19 AM UTC
Kevlar06
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Posted: Wednesday, May 31, 2017 - 01:38 AM UTC
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....Buying new kits is a big part of our hobby! However, having a physical stash on-hand does allow one to get into the cabinet, closet, room, basement or stash-building (I've seen all degrees of stashes!) and browse and choose the next victim at will and spur-of-moment, and for some, that is important and very rewarding. I think that it may actually be the biggest single reason many folks do go to brick-and-mortar LHS... To see lots of stuff and just pick something right at that minute.
I hope that most of us don't worry about how that stash of aging boxes and styrene devalues with time. You spent that money up front. It's spent. The same as if you paid for a movie or a nice supper or a trip to the golf course. The difference is really that you or your heirs MAY get some of it back after you go! Where one should get worried about the stash is when you actually are unhappy about spending money to buy kits and stuff - but you keep on adding to the pile. DON'T buy stuff unless it makes YOU HAPPY to do so!
Bob
Here here! This statement is both philosophical and insightful, my only caviat to it would be that for me, I only buy subjects of some historical interest to me-- so that's what's in my "old guy retiree stash". Even if some kits are "dogs", but nothing else is available, I might buy a kit, but I like to upgrade them if something better comes along. I also only buy (or trade) at my LHS-- because I can browse kits, and look in the boxes ahead of buying-- I can't do that on line. It's important for me to see the kit before buying in most cases. It's important for a couple of reasons-- it helps me limit my "old guy" stash to kits I will eventually build, and also because on-line and magazine reviewers skill sets are not my skill sets-- and I don't necessarily mean my skill level is lower-- frequently I build at a higher skill set than many reviewers do-- that's why I go to sites like Armorama and Aeroscale, to see what you all think before I go look at a kit myself. But as I age, I frequently look at a kit for ease of the build, because ease often equals less build time, and as many of you mention, time is what it's all about. I am amused at the expectations many of you have about retirement "time" though-- I think you'll find there is often less build time than you think there will be-- it's true, you'll have more "free" time away from your chosen profession, but now that you are retired, there will be lots of expectations for your time, especially so if you are married. For instance, when I "retired" and my wife was still working, the household maintenance fell to me. Then some of the cooking, and shopping, etc. When my wife retired, we began spending more time together-- then of course there's travel, church, volunteerism, etc. to consider. Bottom line, I'm busier being retired than I was when I was working on many days. So, for those of you expecting lots of "bench time" that may not be the case always. By the way, don't forget to include time spent on hobby websites-- that takes time too! I really envy those that contribute to this website all the time and still have time for other things-- they must have more energy than I do!
VR, Russ
panzerbob01
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Posted: Wednesday, May 31, 2017 - 02:04 AM UTC
You hit some great points, Russ!
I, too, try to keep within "historical interest"... Albeit I am SOOOO interested in armor, it's evolution, it's use, and it's diversity, that I find myself to be entirely enthused and interested for at least a moment or 3 in almost every next kit which comes along!
The really valid core point is about TIME. "Retired" seldom means "Wow! I now have scads of free time to wallow at the bench! Oooo-rah!" For me, it has meant much of what you mentioned - shifts in what one can now get to do (including spending more time doing with the wife), in domestic roles and responsibilities, in interests. Whole sets of activities and interests and hobbies long dormant surface and seek attendance and involvement. I find I have no more available time for the bench (nor for sleep!) now than I did back when gainfully employed! Retirement is not necessarily a dull and empty time just waiting to be filled!
And so, YES, "buildability" of kits becomes more important to me - I'll gladly spend the money for better kits when the subject calls me. I love the wrestle we do with "dogs", but also like to see the end result get to the shelf, and the clock ticks along. Subject interest, kit quality, and actually knowing about that kit are all aspects in selection.
Maybe something for a new thread... I think that I have "discovered" a very rewarding newish approach to modeling which may be more accessible to (and thus of more interest to?) older and more - experienced modelers and retirees... I'll go start it up!
Model on as one of many things you can now do when retired and get out there and make the most of all that "free time" you are getting!
Bob
I, too, try to keep within "historical interest"... Albeit I am SOOOO interested in armor, it's evolution, it's use, and it's diversity, that I find myself to be entirely enthused and interested for at least a moment or 3 in almost every next kit which comes along!
The really valid core point is about TIME. "Retired" seldom means "Wow! I now have scads of free time to wallow at the bench! Oooo-rah!" For me, it has meant much of what you mentioned - shifts in what one can now get to do (including spending more time doing with the wife), in domestic roles and responsibilities, in interests. Whole sets of activities and interests and hobbies long dormant surface and seek attendance and involvement. I find I have no more available time for the bench (nor for sleep!) now than I did back when gainfully employed! Retirement is not necessarily a dull and empty time just waiting to be filled!
And so, YES, "buildability" of kits becomes more important to me - I'll gladly spend the money for better kits when the subject calls me. I love the wrestle we do with "dogs", but also like to see the end result get to the shelf, and the clock ticks along. Subject interest, kit quality, and actually knowing about that kit are all aspects in selection.
Maybe something for a new thread... I think that I have "discovered" a very rewarding newish approach to modeling which may be more accessible to (and thus of more interest to?) older and more - experienced modelers and retirees... I'll go start it up!
Model on as one of many things you can now do when retired and get out there and make the most of all that "free time" you are getting!
Bob
iguanac
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Posted: Wednesday, May 31, 2017 - 02:04 AM UTC
Dear fellow modellers, i am at the peak of my career,but listening to your arguments, i was inspired to contribute. The modeller's "Valhala" when the time is all yours to build apparently don't exist. I remember, when i studied, one of my professors told us that "this is the time of your life when you have the most of your free time at your disposal". Naturally, i didn't believe that, as exams were so time-consuming. Now, as i work, have a kid, study again (damm PhD!), i can't afford the time i had while studied. So may i propose another topic of enlightenment where we all should inspire our younger colleagues to build while they can, but don't realize?
I wish all our retired colleagues a happy time, sharp eyes and still hands!
I wish all our retired colleagues a happy time, sharp eyes and still hands!
Kevlar06
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Posted: Wednesday, May 31, 2017 - 04:07 AM UTC
Bob, Mario,
You both hit the main point I was trying to make-- there really is no such thing as "extra" free time. We must make decisions on how we spend our time, retired or not. If you enjoy building models, you'll budget time for it, as you would any hobby or pastime. My experience has been the opposite in retirement that I believed it would be. When I'm around others, I prefer to spend my time with them, rather than alone at the bench-- other times, I just like to be alone working on one of many projects I have on the bench, but I must balance time-- all work and no play makes a dull boy as they say-- the opposite can also be said-- all play and no work makes a boy equally dull. Here's another way I look at it-- and I'm surprised no one has said it yet--Modeling is a hobby, some (including me for a while) have turned it into a profession (believe me there's not much fun building for others against a deadline, when you want to be building for yourself). But in the end, do you want to be remembered as a "great modeler" or as a great person. Most of my family admire the models I build, but that's not why they appreciate me. There's the real rub here-- the time you spend building shouldn't be more than the time you spend with others, especially family. I'm not including the time you spend socializing with modeling friends here-- that time is spent with others also. I've made some lifelong friends who share the same hobby (at least for the time I have remaining) but if I spend all my time at the bench-- I'd never be able to spend time with them would I? I think the upshot of all this discussion is 1) have fun; 2) be well rounded; 3) remember, retirement should be a time to have fun and be well rounded.
VR, Russ
You both hit the main point I was trying to make-- there really is no such thing as "extra" free time. We must make decisions on how we spend our time, retired or not. If you enjoy building models, you'll budget time for it, as you would any hobby or pastime. My experience has been the opposite in retirement that I believed it would be. When I'm around others, I prefer to spend my time with them, rather than alone at the bench-- other times, I just like to be alone working on one of many projects I have on the bench, but I must balance time-- all work and no play makes a dull boy as they say-- the opposite can also be said-- all play and no work makes a boy equally dull. Here's another way I look at it-- and I'm surprised no one has said it yet--Modeling is a hobby, some (including me for a while) have turned it into a profession (believe me there's not much fun building for others against a deadline, when you want to be building for yourself). But in the end, do you want to be remembered as a "great modeler" or as a great person. Most of my family admire the models I build, but that's not why they appreciate me. There's the real rub here-- the time you spend building shouldn't be more than the time you spend with others, especially family. I'm not including the time you spend socializing with modeling friends here-- that time is spent with others also. I've made some lifelong friends who share the same hobby (at least for the time I have remaining) but if I spend all my time at the bench-- I'd never be able to spend time with them would I? I think the upshot of all this discussion is 1) have fun; 2) be well rounded; 3) remember, retirement should be a time to have fun and be well rounded.
VR, Russ
wedgetail53
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Posted: Wednesday, May 31, 2017 - 04:59 AM UTC
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Bob, Mario,
You both hit the main point I was trying to make-- there really is no such thing as "extra" free time. We must make decisions on how we spend our time, retired or not. If you enjoy building models, you'll budget time for it, as you would any hobby or pastime. My experience has been the opposite in retirement that I believed it would be. When I'm around others, I prefer to spend my time with them, rather than alone at the bench-- other times, I just like to be alone working on one of many projects I have on the bench, but I must balance time-- all work and no play makes a dull boy as they say-- the opposite can also be said-- all play and no work makes a boy equally dull. Here's another way I look at it-- and I'm surprised no one has said it yet--Modeling is a hobby, some (including me for a while) have turned it into a profession (believe me there's not much fun building for others against a deadline, when you want to be building for yourself). But in the end, do you want to be remembered as a "great modeler" or as a great person. Most of my family admire the models I build, but that's not why they appreciate me. There's the real rub here-- the time you spend building shouldn't be more than the time you spend with others, especially family. I'm not including the time you spend socializing with modeling friends here-- that time is spent with others also. I've made some lifelong friends who share the same hobby (at least for the time I have remaining) but if I spend all my time at the bench-- I'd never be able to spend time with them would I? I think the upshot of all this discussion is 1) have fun; 2) be well rounded; 3) remember, retirement should be a time to have fun and be well rounded.
VR, Russ
Well said, Russ. Despite the fact that the red headed menace sometimes drives me up the wall, I adore her, and wouldn't miss the time we have together for all the kits in my stash. I recall my grandparents as grumpy old farts who were usually seen at birthdays, Christmas etc, and we had to be on our best behaviour - fun they were not.
As you said, it's all about achieving a balance. Having said that, as today is one when I don't have any "help", it might be a good time to cull some of the less than perfect built kits to make space for those yet unbuilt.
And so back to the Takom King Tiger.
Regards
Rob
Kevlar06
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Posted: Wednesday, May 31, 2017 - 05:11 AM UTC
Right you are Rob. I find friends even here on Armorama, be we separated by thousands of miles of water. In my last post, I typed Marko in the address line, but spell check does not like this old Luddite much and changed it to "Mario" without my consent, so my apologies to our almost retired comrade from Belgrade-- Marko.
Very Respectfully (VR), Russ
Very Respectfully (VR), Russ
iguanac
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Posted: Wednesday, May 31, 2017 - 12:42 PM UTC
No hard feelings Russ!
Posted: Wednesday, May 31, 2017 - 04:49 PM UTC
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I'm retirement age but still working full-time. I have started culling my stash a bit, but mostly buying fewer kits. Maybe no more than a dozen a year now. Won't even do most review samples, and I never enter the raffles at events because I DON'T WANT MORE KITS!!!
I don't need any more kits but I still purchase raffle tickets just to help the group putting on the show. Any kits I win I give them to any kid standing next to me. The look on their faces is more then worth the ten or twenty dollars I spent.
vettejack
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Posted: Wednesday, May 31, 2017 - 06:31 PM UTC
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Been doing that as well for years...predominately at contest/conventions. Buy 5, 10, or 20 bucks for raffle tickets, and if I win, I have turned around and would look for kids that I would noticed have been at the event the whole time, and if they had an interest in modeling during that time, I presented them the kit...no strings attached.
The 'feel good' moment after winning a raffle is to watch that smile, boy or girl, that reveals that innocent wide eyed, non verbal, reaction to the surprise...immediately followed with that 'thanks mister!!!" or words similar, and then watching them run off to mom and/or dad to let them know of that 'look what I just got" excitement, resulting in a frequent 'thumbs up' and wink from parents at a distance across the hall/floor...would fullfill my life for that particular day. No comparative feeling or event exists for me for that short moment.
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I don't need any more kits but I still purchase raffle tickets just to help the group putting on the show. Any kits I win I give them to any kid standing next to me. The look on their faces is more then worth the ten or twenty dollars I spent.
Been doing that as well for years...predominately at contest/conventions. Buy 5, 10, or 20 bucks for raffle tickets, and if I win, I have turned around and would look for kids that I would noticed have been at the event the whole time, and if they had an interest in modeling during that time, I presented them the kit...no strings attached.
The 'feel good' moment after winning a raffle is to watch that smile, boy or girl, that reveals that innocent wide eyed, non verbal, reaction to the surprise...immediately followed with that 'thanks mister!!!" or words similar, and then watching them run off to mom and/or dad to let them know of that 'look what I just got" excitement, resulting in a frequent 'thumbs up' and wink from parents at a distance across the hall/floor...would fullfill my life for that particular day. No comparative feeling or event exists for me for that short moment.
SSGToms
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Posted: Thursday, June 01, 2017 - 03:24 AM UTC
I'm pretty well set. I'm 53 and retired. I have about 200 kits, all armor, in the stash. My wife still has about 10 years to work, so I'm home alone during the day. Household duties occupy the morning, but I get about 4-5 hours of build time a day in the afternoon, barring appointments or errands. In my family the men stay sharp well into their 80's, so I plan to make a huge dent in that stash. I belong to the local AMPS chapter, so once a month I get to talk tanks and styrene with my buddies. We go to about 8 shows a year together and have a great time, so I have a hobby related social life. My stash is neatly shelved in my basement, so once in a while when I've dealt with too many idiots, I retreat downstairs to survey "my domain" where nobody can screw with me. I peruse the kits and decide what I'll build next. I paw through PE and sniff the resin. All I have to do is buy glue. Model building is the perfect retirement hobby.