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RyeField: Sturmtiger with Interiorvaranusk
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Posted: Tuesday, June 27, 2017 - 11:33 AM UTC
Rye Field Model adds a new member to their Tiger family, the Sturmtiger.
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Kevlar06
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Posted: Tuesday, June 27, 2017 - 06:53 PM UTC
Probably to soon to ask, but the biggest drawback of the current 1/35 scale models on the market is the absence of the rifling on the inside of the barrel. Anyone know if Ryefield has addressed that? There's an aftermarket PE set out there, but it requires precise rolling to get it to fit. It would be nice to see a slide molded barrel with the rifling included.
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Posted: Tuesday, June 27, 2017 - 08:31 PM UTC
CAD seems to show the rifling.
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Posted: Wednesday, June 28, 2017 - 03:23 AM UTC
AFV Club's kit has rifling via a piece of PE.
Kevlar06
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Posted: Wednesday, June 28, 2017 - 04:07 AM UTC
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CAD seems to show the rifling.
Yes, I see that-- I'm just wondering how it's done. I have the Eduard PE set and the Tamiya Sturmtiger, and I've seen the AFV club kit-- but getting the rifling in the tube is a big problem, and no matter what you do there will be a seam or gap-- I'm wondering if Ryefield has taken care of this with a slide mold-- which would be ideal.
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Posted: Wednesday, June 28, 2017 - 04:29 AM UTC
I have a Takom kit of a Mortar that has rifling in it, should not be hard to do.
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Posted: Wednesday, June 28, 2017 - 05:00 AM UTC
That's what I thought too! How hard can it be when slide molding lets you do precise detailing on both sides of a complex part? About time. Hope other manufacturers are taking note!
panamadan
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Posted: Wednesday, June 28, 2017 - 07:42 AM UTC
I don't think slide molding can make the twist that is needed for correct rifling.
panamadan
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Posted: Wednesday, June 28, 2017 - 07:44 AM UTC
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Posted: Wednesday, June 28, 2017 - 08:46 AM UTC
I used Hussar barrel with my AFV Club Sturmtiger
Byrden
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Posted: Wednesday, June 28, 2017 - 12:40 PM UTC
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That's what I thought too! How hard can it be when slide molding lets you do precise detailing on both sides of a complex part?
Ordinary molds let you do precise detailing on both sides of a complex part.
If you want to know how hard it can be, try designing the slide mold.
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Posted: Thursday, June 29, 2017 - 03:02 AM UTC
Will the kit have Zimm?
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Posted: Thursday, June 29, 2017 - 07:23 AM UTC
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I don't think slide molding can make the twist that is needed for correct rifling.
Very true! At best they can add the front edge of the grooves as seen at the tip of the barrel, but the groves go straight back without a twist. To add a twist you need the sliding plug to "corkscrew" as the mould is pulled open, and I suspect that would easily double the cost of making the tool for that sprue...
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Posted: Thursday, June 29, 2017 - 12:38 PM UTC
I think that a PE inner sleeve for the gun is the cheapest and most practical way to make the rifling. But it could be difficult to bend it, because of course it will want to fold on the rifling lines instead of making a curve. I would provide a plastic guide to push it into.
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Posted: Thursday, June 29, 2017 - 01:39 PM UTC
I used Aber`s PE upgrade set for the Tamiya Sturmtiger.
I remember thinking to my self "well, this is impossible to fit inside", but somehow it worked carefully bending it to shape.
However, as someone else said in this post, gap between plastic and the PE seemed to be inevitable. Not to mention that adding a sheet of PE inside the barrel will screw up the barrel diameter.
I remember thinking to my self "well, this is impossible to fit inside", but somehow it worked carefully bending it to shape.
However, as someone else said in this post, gap between plastic and the PE seemed to be inevitable. Not to mention that adding a sheet of PE inside the barrel will screw up the barrel diameter.
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Posted: Thursday, June 29, 2017 - 04:22 PM UTC
The kit could be designed so that its own PE brings the barrel to the correct diameter.
Aftermarket PE won't do that.
David
Aftermarket PE won't do that.
David
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Posted: Friday, June 30, 2017 - 05:30 AM UTC
Does anyone have any info as to how the barrel attaches to the trunions in this kit? This area specifically:
SSGToms
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Posted: Friday, June 30, 2017 - 06:15 AM UTC
This kit looks really impressive. I may just have to sell off my ancient Tamiya kit with the doodads I collected for it.
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Posted: Friday, June 30, 2017 - 07:32 PM UTC
Or you could mold it two halfs with the rifling following the mold lines,
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Posted: Saturday, July 01, 2017 - 07:38 PM UTC
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Or you could mold it two halfs with the rifling following the mold lines,
Then you'll have people complaining about the several generations ago molding technique used, and the accompanying joint seam to fill!