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Posted: Thursday, September 14, 2017 - 01:39 AM UTC
What color are the individual MRE packets? Are all MREs in a carton the same or are they mixed? Thanks
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Unless they've changed them in the recent past, they are in a dark brown plastic heat sealed bag with black lettering. The newer ones may be in a lighter brown pouch so I guess it will depend on what time period you're trying to represent.

There's an assortment of different menu items in each case.
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Some info here :

http://www.mreinfo.com/mres/

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Unless they've changed them in the recent past, they are in a dark brown plastic heat sealed bag with black lettering. The newer ones may be in a lighter brown pouch so I guess it will depend on what time period you're trying to represent.

There's an assortment of different menu items in each case.



Older versions were a dark brown. The recent issues are a lighter brown with dark brown printing. Although a case contains a variety of menus, the packaging is all the same color.

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What color are the individual MRE packets? Are all MREs in a carton the same or are they mixed? Thanks



It depends on what era you are speaking about. I was on the MRE test team for Fort Lewis' High Technology Test Bed (HTTB) when we were testing MREs in the 1983-1984 period (I have a crown in my mouth to prove it-- but that's another story!). At that time, the MRE packaging was in a cardboard box, with an "exterior sleeve slide cover". Inside the box were 12 dark brown plastic envelopes, each containing a different meal menu item. Inside those were a variety of cardboard, plastic and thermo-foil wrappers in natural cardboard color, transparent, pale green, green and brown (for some of the thermo foil barrier wrapped items like cookies and candy). those dark brown MRE'S were around for about 10 years.
Sometime in the 1990s, I suspect after the first Gulf War, the outer plastic covers were changed to a tan color, but the inner menu item packaging remained about the same. I believe the thermo-foil barrier wrappers were deleted at that time though. As far as your question about the meals-- there were 12 different menu selections in the initial boxing. Not sure what the menu items are today as far as mixing up the selection goes-- but there are supposed to be 12 mixed meals. When I retired in 2006, we were still eating MRES packed in 1999, and those seemed to have duplicate menu items in a box of 12.
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All I know is that in 03, they were dark brown container with black lettering. After that being all that we had to eat for 2 months, I hope to never see one again.
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Here is a great pic by Pete Becerra showing the old (left side) vs. newer (right side) MREs.

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Here is a great pic by Pete Becerra showing the old (left side) vs. newer (right side) MREs.




Yep-- that's a good depiction. Now for my broken tooth story. In 1983 my Company was selected along with several other Fort Lewis based units to test the MRE concept in the field at Yakima Firing Range. Each case of the "new" MREs came with 12 one page evaluation sheets, one for each meal, asking the "consumer" everything about the meal from packaging to texture to flavor and ease of preparation. The only way you could get the next meal was to turn in the evaluation sheet from the last meal-- and we had to eat MREs three times a day for two weeks. There were 21 menu options, which meant everyone got to rate at least two of every option. One platoon of the four in my Company had to eat C-rations as a control, using the same evaluation sheet.
I was parked in a 1/4 ton on top of one of the "Knuckles" at Yakima firing range, eating a meal which had two chocolate covered oatmeal cookies wrapped in the vacuum sealed thermo-foil wrapper. These were a little smaller than a hockey puck, but seemed about as hard. As I bit down into the cookie, it was so hard I could only get through the chocolate coating. I finally resorted to cutting the cookie into chunks with my Field knife (a USN UDT knife I carried back then). This was a mistake as it just made the super hard cookies smaller. Popping one small bite in my mouth I bit down hard and split my number 3 molar right in two-- there was instant pain, and a little blood. My driver drove me into the aid station that afternoon-- but there was no dentist, so I had to drive back to Fort Lewis by 1/4 ton for emergency dental treatment-- a distance of 150 miles one way. I forgot to leave my evaluation sheet with the Mess Sergeant, which meant I couldn't pick up any meals-- by the time I got back, I hadn't eaten for two days-- (not that I could with a busted tooth anyway). The chocolate oatmeal cookies were eliminated from the testing and a warning went out through all the units to collect them so they could be discarded. Needless to say, my evaluation was pretty scathing. There were some other menu items that never made it into the meals too-- I remember a greasy non-dehydrated pork chop, powdered scrambled eggs that had to be reconstituted and a dehydrated meatloaf patty-- those were some of the bad items. But there were good items that never made it into the initial issue -- dehydrated Neoploitan ice cream was one-- it was pretty good, although it didn't resemble real ice cream. So all of you who've eaten MREs and not lost a tooth in the process have me to thank for eliminating at least one of the hazardous food items!
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Here is a great pic by Pete Becerra showing the old (left side) vs. newer (right side) MREs.




Yep-- that's a good depiction. Now for my broken tooth story. In 1983 my Company was selected along with several other Fort Lewis based units to test the MRE concept in the field at Yakima Firing Range. Each case of the "new" MREs came with 12 one page evaluation sheets, one for each meal, asking the "consumer" everything about the meal from packaging to texture to flavor and ease of preparation. The only way you could get the next meal was to turn in the evaluation sheet from the last meal-- and we had to eat MREs three times a day for two weeks. There were 21 menu options, which meant everyone got to rate at least two of every option. One platoon of the four in my Company had to eat C-rations as a control, using the same evaluation sheet.
I was parked in a 1/4 ton on top of one of the "Knuckles" at Yakima firing range, eating a meal which had two chocolate covered oatmeal cookies wrapped in the vacuum sealed thermo-foil wrapper. These were a little smaller than a hockey puck, but seemed about as hard. As I bit down into the cookie, it was so hard I could only get through the chocolate coating. I finally resorted to cutting the cookie into chunks with my Field knife (a USN UDT knife I carried back then). This was a mistake as it just made the super hard cookies smaller. Popping one small bite in my mouth I bit down hard and split my number 3 molar right in two-- there was instant pain, and a little blood. My driver drove me into the aid station that afternoon-- but there was no dentist, so I had to drive back to Fort Lewis by 1/4 ton for emergency dental treatment-- a distance of 150 miles one way. I forgot to leave my evaluation sheet with the Mess Sergeant, which meant I couldn't pick up any meals-- by the time I got back, I hadn't eaten for two days-- (not that I could with a busted tooth anyway). The chocolate oatmeal cookies were eliminated from the testing and a warning went out through all the units to collect them so they could be discarded. Needless to say, my evaluation was pretty scathing. There were some other menu items that never made it into the meals too-- I remember a greasy non-dehydrated pork chop, powdered scrambled eggs that had to be reconstituted and a dehydrated meatloaf patty-- those were some of the bad items. But there were good items that never made it into the initial issue -- dehydrated Neoploitan ice cream was one-- it was pretty good, although it didn't resemble real ice cream. So all of you who've eaten MREs and not lost a tooth in the process have me to thank for eliminating at least one of the hazardous food items!
VR, Russ



The Knuckles. Knew those like the back of my hand and Witches T.t was a hill where I knew every rock, shrub and pile of sheep crap. We got MRE's in basic in September 84 as they fielded them and pulled c-rats. We still got c-rats but about 50% of the time we got MRE's. Those two chocolate cookies that replaced the oatmeal ones you experienced were not an improvement. There was a piece of wax paper between the cookies and when they vacuum sealed them it compressed the cookies together so tight you could't separate the cookies so we'd just eat both cookies at the same time with the wax paper. Probably helped the taste. The "granola" bar was a bar of compressed sand about 1x1x3 inches that was a jaw breaker but if you put peanut butter on it was tolerable. I was so sick of dehydrated peaches I've haven't touched a peach in over 20 years, canned or fresh. The hot dog meal was so bad we only gave it to the guys who screwed up for punishment. We'd get back and there would be a couple dozen uneaten packages of hotdogs floating around the humvee. We even tried to feed them to the coyotes but they would rarely touch them, only the really mangy ones would eat the dang things. When we were really bored we'd cut them up and put them in our ramen soup (everyone went to the field with at least one case of ramen soup) but the grease would float out of them and leave a quarter inch thick oil slick on top of our ramen pot. The best thing they did to improve MRE's was to start putting bottles of Tabasco Sauce in the accessories pack. I still carried my big bottle of Tabasco with me but I wouldn't have to worry about running out half way thru a one month field problem. Post Desert Storm they started to put the water activated heaters in a few of them. Never really got them hot but lukewarm when it's in single digit temps or below was better then frozen. Now the have MRE BREAD!! Much better than the crackers.
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Many thanks to all who responded. Great stories as well.
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It's odd that you tested them in 1983. We (1st Armd Div.) were using them since the latter part of 1982. In July of that year, a couple of guys from VII Corps came by the Supply Room and were inspecting our MCI Rations. I asked our Supply Sgt., SSgt. Harry "Elvis" Delgado what the deal was. He said that the guys were Veterinary Corps personnel and they determined that all of the MCI rations were "unfit for human consumption" (we already knew that) and were to be replaced with MRE's. We were wondering what the hell an "MRE" was. Being the Supply Sgt., you would think that Elvis would know. Well, around the end of the month, Elvis picked up 200 cases at Furth, just in time for our Division FTX. Each meal was sealed in a heavy, dark brown, tear-proof pouch. My CO banned knives from being carried in the field; so, it was tough going to open them.

First the pros:

No Ham & Eggs, Chopped and no tuna fish.

The bagged spaghetti w/meat sauce was better than the old canned version. The Chicken a la King was pretty tasty also. Ditto with the beef w/BBQ sauce.

The cons:

Different types of dehydrated meats like rectangular bricks of pork sausage and beef patties. They tasted like crap and had some of us actually reminiscing about the Ham & Eggs and tuna.

No Beef Slices w/Potatoes in the menu. This was an old B-2 MCI ration which included the highly coveted and trade-worthy pound cake and cocoa powder. Pretty much tasteless but nothing that some Tabasco sauce couldn't remedy. At least it wasn't dehydrated.

No "Dead Duke" bars, ie, Candy Disc, Chocolate. They sucked; but, in a pinch, came in handy for a sugar rush.

No Pound Cake.

No Cocoa Powder to make chocolate sauce to pour on the now-deleted pound cake and make "Ranger Pudding". The dehydrated ice cream wasn't too bad. I bet it would have tasted great with the pound cake, though. Oh, those chocolate covered oatmeal cookies? We had them. The little German kids we gave them to would curse at us whenever they got them, just like they did whenever we tried to palm off the "Dead Duke" bars and crackers. It seems other units already received MRE's before we did and were handing out them mini-manhole covers and the little comrades were wise to them.

No fruit slices in syrup. A great thirst quencher and pack of non-dairy creamer mixed into a can of peach slices was pretty good.

The fact that nothing was packed in cans was unfortunate. The smaller cans used for crackers could be made into a field stove to heat up the meals or a canteen cup of water for coffee using hexamine tablets or Sterno.
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IT wasn't pound cake . It was cake canned pound baked extra good with coco powder frosting.
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It's odd that you tested them in 1983. We (1st Armd Div.) were using them since the latter part of 1982. In July of that year, a couple of guys from VII Corps came by the Supply Room and were inspecting our MCI Rations. I asked our Supply Sgt., SSgt. Harry "Elvis" Delgado what the deal was. He said that the guys were Veterinary Corps personnel and they determined that all of the MCI rations were "unfit for human consumption" (we already knew that) and were to be replaced with MRE's. We were wondering what the hell an "MRE" was. Being the Supply Sgt., you would think that Elvis would know. Well, around the end of the month, Elvis picked up 200 cases at Furth, just in time for our Division FTX. Each meal was sealed in a heavy, dark brown, tear-proof pouch. My CO banned knives from being carried in the field; so, it was tough going to open them.

First the pros:

No Ham & Eggs, Chopped and no tuna fish.

The bagged spaghetti w/meat sauce was better than the old canned version. The Chicken a la King was pretty tasty also. Ditto with the beef w/BBQ sauce.

The cons:

Different types of dehydrated meats like rectangular bricks of pork sausage and beef patties. They tasted like crap and had some of us actually reminiscing about the Ham & Eggs and tuna.

No Beef Slices w/Potatoes in the menu. This was an old B-2 MCI ration which included the highly coveted and trade-worthy pound cake and cocoa powder. Pretty much tasteless but nothing that some Tabasco sauce couldn't remedy. At least it wasn't dehydrated.

No "Dead Duke" bars, ie, Candy Disc, Chocolate. They sucked; but, in a pinch, came in handy for a sugar rush.

No Pound Cake.

No Cocoa Powder to make chocolate sauce to pour on the now-deleted pound cake and make "Ranger Pudding". The dehydrated ice cream wasn't too bad. I bet it would have tasted great with the pound cake, though. Oh, those chocolate covered oatmeal cookies? We had them. The little German kids we gave them to would curse at us whenever they got them, just like they did whenever we tried to palm off the "Dead Duke" bars and crackers. It seems other units already received MRE's before we did and were handing out them mini-manhole covers and the little comrades were wise to them.

No fruit slices in syrup. A great thirst quencher and pack of non-dairy creamer mixed into a can of peach slices was pretty good.

The fact that nothing was packed in cans was unfortunate. The smaller cans used for crackers could be made into a field stove to heat up the meals or a canteen cup of water for coffee using hexamine tablets or Sterno.



BANNED KNIVES? I'm glad I was in the grown up Army. I carried 3 knives in the field and 2 (usually) in garrison. I carried a Old Timer 3 blade in my pocket, a Buck 110 folder on my hip and in the field on my LCE was a Gerber BMF with a 8 inch blade. Used them daily. I kept my Gerber in my wall locker and tho the regs stated blades longer then the width of your hand had to be secured in the arms room, my CO's, everyone of them over the 7 years, 4 different posts (2 overseas) I had the knife, would pull it out on inspections and heath and wellfares, put the blade across their palm with the blade extending another 4 inches beyond, put it back in it's scabbard and say "field knife" and put it back in my wall locker. They never took our knives from us.

I'm surprised they gave you guys bullets.

I have a couple dozen P-38's from C-rats we still got in 84-85 while they were burning out inventory and carried one on my dog tags every day I once I was out of basic. When they started to field T-rations they re-introduced the P-38's. You'd find them in the boxes that the T-rats came in. They came in handy opening MRE envelops if you didn't carry a knife, but using them to open a T-rat was an exercise in frustration. We lost a vehicle due to electrical issues but we had to leave a guard on it because it had a multi-million dollar classified ECM system that we couldn't unmount. So we left the lowest ranking soldier, five gallons of water, batteries for the PRC-77 and a chicken something or other T-rat. 2 days later we went back to get him and to recover the rig and he told us it took him almost 6 hours to open a corner of the t-rat enough to dig the food out. He didn't have a P-38 so he had to use a rock to smash open the big tin can. Our LT chewed us out for not making sure he had one and it was our fault for not making sure he was ready. Next deployment he had them on his dog tags, his key chain and in his pocket which is a painful place to carry a can opener.

The second worst MRE entree, almost as bad as the hotdogs was the Ham and Chicken Loaf, but it was so rare we were more afraid of the hot dogs. Thank god that when I did get it I had a big bottle of Tabasco.


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It is good to see that any army in the world no matter what angle of the globe in the case of rations always goes from the disgusting to the eatable, we in Switzerland had what we called "monkey meat" a inedible cans of meat in a unknow sauce; we hide the spaghetti sauce and washed the meat with water and added the sauce, but the smartest thing to do with those cans was to put them closed on the mini-coker and bet how long it would explode.

Also the army biscuits were something overwhelming, so dry that you could die dehydrated, good only for the classic bet, if you can eat 3 biscuits in less than a minute without drinks, the offers ranged from pizza, free beer all night long,appointment with your sister,etc ... you could ask anything whatsoever to win is impossible, never heard of anyone who has made it and that biscuits serve the army at least from the '50, to the third all start to suffocate spitting biscuits everywhere

For the knife you are punished if you do not have it in your pocket, the knife must always be on the man, no matter what uniform and in what circumstances, the only time you can not have the classic Swiss Army knife in your pocket is under the shower
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It's odd that you tested them in 1983. We (1st Armd Div.) were using them since the latter part of 1982. In July of that year, a couple of guys from VII Corps came by the Supply Room and were inspecting our MCI Rations....



I might have been off a year in the testing-- I Commanded the 164th Chemical Company, SG, from May 1982 to August 1983, and I thought we were testing them in the spring of 83, but it was over 30 years ago, so I could be off a year with the HTTB testing. However, the development, testing and standardization of the meals was a prolonged process which really began in the 60s as the meals themselves were developed from the SF LRP rations. They weren't actually standardized for the "big" Army until 1986. That doesn't mean other units didn't receive them because testing was conducted Army wide-- and I suspect what you were eating was part of the test issue-- especially if there were chocolate covered oatmeal cookies in it-- because these were dropped in later meals. I never heard or saw the "hot dog" MRE meal some have mentioned until 2002. In March 1986, When I was at Dugway PG, we were just replacing the last of the C rations meals with MREs, but by March 87, when I got to 2ID in Korea, the only rations for field use were the new T-rations and MREs. While at Dugway, I worked with USMC units-- and some Marine units were still eating C-Rations in the field. Frankly, I preferred the C rations--the only one I didn't really care for was the spiced beef because it came with glassine balls of fat and gristle in them. C- rats did come with Vienna Sausage though, which along with tuna and the scrambled eggs with ham were among my favorites (I guess I had strange tastes). One dessert item I couldn't stand was the chocolate nut roll-- we called it the "chocolate dust roll". I do agree the pound cake was pretty good, and covering it with the canned peaches, applesauce or fruit cocktail made it even better. Just as a side note, in 1988 I was assigned to the 25th ID, and spent four months working with the JGSDF 6th ID in Ojojabara Japan-- our mess section was pulled out about two weeks before the last of our staff left Japan, and by agreement, we ate with the JGSDF staff-- who subsisted on one hot meal and two Japanese MRE meals a day-- the Japanese MREs weren't too bad and looked exactly like ours in packaging, just with more rice based meals-- but they did have a nasty ochra vegetable side dish that was not so hot.
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I gotta case of MRE'S in my closet, not the newest type but far better than the ones we had in the 80's and 90's. I have a nephew in the infantry and while he was stationed in Europe we sent him a care package for his first christmas. We sent him a lot of gag gifts including an MRE and a bottle of Tabasco sauce. He skyped us as he opened his box and when he got to my gift, the MRE, he just stared at it and was so flabergasted he couldn't talk for several moments then he thanked me for the gift, asked why it couldn't have been one he liked, then called me a name I can't use here. He got to his real presents, highend thermal underwear, which we got him because I know how cold Grafenwoehr can be in January. A few weeks later he learned that lesson too and was really appreciative of the new long johns. But probably not the MRE.
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BANNED KNIVES? I'm glad I was in the grown up Army.



The reasons that knives were banned by the then-CO, Capt. William R. Puttman, were because there were numerous violent incidents which took place on an almost daily basis in the barracks. Anyone pulling CQ was given, in addition to the alert book, a nail-studded baseball bat to be carried when checking the barracks above the second floor. See, the boys on the third floor broke the lights so it would be pitch black in the hallway to make it easier to jump somebody stupid enough to walk through there at night. One guy who was ambushed before I got to the unit was found hanged in the 3rd Plt. latrine with a bottle embedded in a most unnatural location. I could also tell you about the Bn. SDO who got his ass kicked by the guys in Rm. 302, shoved into a wall locker and thrown out the window. Not once; but three times. The first two times only made him more pissed off. The third time, he stayed downstairs. That's because the guys padlocked the locker door before it went out the window. They had to. They ran out of wall lockers to shove him into.

Ask anyone who was in USAREUR between 1972 and 1983 about the 1/6 INF. I was assigned to A Co. It had a reputation as the worst unit in the Army. This was a penal battalion in every way except in name. It was more of a stopover for guys heading to Mannheim or Leavenworth. More than a few guys who went stateside on leave refused to go back and requested compassionate reassignment. I almost got my ticket permanently punched at a Styx concert in Nurnberg by a bunch of goons from the 2nd Plt. because they got the idea I was CID working undercover. It was fortunate to be best friends with even bigger German biker goons who were at the same concert and who had my six covered. There are a lot more things I could tell you; but, I think you get the drift. No matter where you were stationed or how bad you might have thought it was, compared to this joint, you were in day camp.
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MRE''s.... Ah, yes. Was in Basic at Ft. Leonard wood in Oct 83. Got my first taste of C rats and pulled spaghetti in sauce, with meatballs, and the dreaded green eggs with ham. Gotta say, the former was a lot like canned spaghetti O's and the latter was just foul! The peaches in syrup was tasty. Onto the first MRE's now. Hotdogs(4 fingers of death!) and those dehydrated pork and beef patties(WTF? Over). I don't really recall many other menu choices but recall the dehydrated peaches and strawberries. Not bad, but if you threw them in your mouth dry, you lost ALL moisture in your mouth. John Wayne bars were a commodity that was almost as good as $$ or smokes in the field. One instance still brings a smile to my face. On an ARTEP in the Ardennes area in 85, I was 2 Joes behind the Bn Staff Officers in the chow line and watched a MAJ rat F'g a box when he was D!ck stomped by the BC, stating "Major, these troops don't get to pick. Neither do you! grab 1 and go!" Still in the Guard now, and the menus have changed drastically to reflect the changing times and changing Soldiers. A lot of vegetarian meals now(Ratatouille, really?). Personally, as a 51 y/o SFC, I try to avoid them as much as possible and will usually stretch one over 2-3 meals. Breakfast entrees are probably the most palatable IMHO. Almost time to pop smoke and retire, lol.
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MRE''s..... Breakfast entrees are probably the most palatable IMHO. Almost time to pop smoke and retire, lol.



I guess we are really off topic-- but this discussion brings back some "fond" memories-- just out of curiousity, what are the current breakfast entree items?? I don't remember any before I retired in 06. A case of MREs is good to have around though for emergencies, and they still sell them to private customers in the commissary. For several years I kept a case in my "big one" survival pack that everyone in Washington State is supposed to have when the "big one" hits. However, they do expire and used to only be good for 7 years. When the last case I had was nearing expiration, I shared it with my church Boy Scout troop leader who took it along for the kids on a two day camp out. According to him, they were initially enthused to eat real "Army" food, but after the first meal they refused to go near them anymore, except for one kid who ate everything left! Speaking of MRE stories, I was assigned to NORAD/USSPACECOM in Colorado Springs-- the only Army guy on the IG staff. my boss was an AF O6 and we had mostly USAF, CAF and Navy pilots assigned. I was asked to set up a field trip to Fort Carson for familiarization with "Ground" operations, and we spent a day in the field with a mech infantry unit. Our Navy F-14 pilot had never eaten an MRE, and he went crazy over them-- eating four meals in a row before I found out (the unit 1st Sergeant found it humorous to supply a "squid" with as many "fortified" meals as he could eat). I had to stop him and warn him that he'd regret eating that many meals in a row in a day or two-- he was skinny as a rail and a bottomless pit, and he told me he thought MREs were delicious, they let him keep four additional meals when we left-- three days later he was still having problems.
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MRE''s..... Breakfast entrees are probably the most palatable IMHO. Almost time to pop smoke and retire, lol.



I guess we are really off topic-- but this discussion brings back some "fond" memories-- just out of curiousity, what are the current breakfast entree items?? I don't remember any before I retired in 06. A case of MREs is good to have around though for emergencies, and they still sell them to private customers in the commissary. For several years I kept a case in my "big one" survival pack that everyone in Washington State is supposed to have when the "big one" hits. However, they do expire and used to only be good for 7 years. When the last case I had was nearing expiration, I shared it with my church Boy Scout troop leader who took it along for the kids on a two day camp out. According to him, they were initially enthused to eat real "Army" food, but after the first meal they refused to go near them anymore, except for one kid who ate everything left! Speaking of MRE stories, I was assigned to NORAD/USSPACECOM in Colorado Springs-- the only Army guy on the IG staff. my boss was an AF O6 and we had mostly USAF, CAF and Navy pilots assigned. I was asked to set up a field trip to Fort Carson for familiarization with "Ground" operations, and we spent a day in the field with a mech infantry unit. Our Navy F-14 pilot had never eaten an MRE, and he went crazy over them-- eating four meals in a row before I found out (the unit 1st Sergeant found it humorous to supply a "squid" with as many "fortified" meals as he could eat). I had to stop him and warn him that he'd regret eating that many meals in a row in a day or two-- he was skinny as a rail and a bottomless pit, and he told me he thought MREs were delicious, they let him keep four additional meals when we left-- three days later he was still having problems.
VR, Russ



Russ, There was a vegetable/cheese omelet as a main entree, with dehydrated blueberries, granola cereal and powdered milk. That was a favorite of mine. Joes didn't like it and it's been discontinued. There are now 2. A maple flavored pork sausage patty with the same granola mix and another intestinal stopping cream gravy with pork sausage pieces. They've also discontinued the mini bottles of Tabasco, which helps the latter immensely. Some menus have a tear open package of hot sauce. I believe Texas Pete or similar. I also have quite a few cases in reserve. After an Annual Training there are literally dozens of cases left over and I've never seen a Bn S4 try to turn them back in. HTH.
V/r,
Mike
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Ask anyone who was in USAREUR between 1972 and 1983 about the 1/6 INF. I was assigned to A Co. It had a reputation as the worst unit in the Army.



Don't know specifically about 1/6 INF, but having been in Baumholder from 1972-1977, I can attest that it was a war zone IN GARRISON! As BN SDO, we were "strongly urged" NOT to walk through the barracks during the evening for reasons as you've described. During the renovations to the barracks which took them from squad bays to 6 man rooms, the temporary barracks (and Arms rooms) didn't meet AR 190-11 requirements so the CQ had to be armed with a .45. One night some of the troublemakers started a fight to distract the CQ and in the process the pistol which he left on his desk "disappeared". It turned up a few weeks later. In the center desk drawer of the Battery Commander. Rigged as a booby trap to fire as he opened the drawer. The gun didn't go off, because the slide got caught on the top edge of the drawer opening and got pushed back, not only jamming the drawer, but of course making the gun safe (one of the four safety features of the .45 for those not familiar with it.) Looking into the drawer to try to figure out why it wouldn't open was evidently a "trouser changing" experience. Eventually CID determined who was responsible and he was sent to Mannheim. If the Warsaw Pact had only know just how bad things REALLY were back then!
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