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Model Miniature : Namer Armored Personnel CarrierPosted: Friday, November 10, 2017 - 12:16 PM UTC
Available from Model Miniature is an Israeli armored troop vehicle rendered in 1/72 scale.
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ReluctantRenegade
Wien, Austria
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Posted: Friday, November 10, 2017 - 12:27 PM UTC
I thought the Namer was based on the Merkava IV chassis. Maybe the very first ones were converted from Mk.Is and IIs...?
Posted: Friday, November 10, 2017 - 03:06 PM UTC
ReluctantRenegade
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Posted: Friday, November 10, 2017 - 05:36 PM UTC
Thanks Tat, some interesting info there. I didn't know IDF was experimenting with a Merkava based HAPCs as early as the mid '80s.
However, there's some misinformation in the article:
'Merkava 3 and 4 have torsion bar suspension' - as a matter of fact, all Merkavas have either paired (Mk.I and II) or independent (Mk.III and IV) helical coil-spring suspension.
'As a result in 1983, obsolete Centurion MBTs (sic!) were withdrawn from service and modified into heavy APCs' - the last Shot platoon was withdrawn from regular service in July '92 (see picture #379 here: https://armorama.kitmaker.net/forums/260992&ord=&page=4). By 2002 all Shot reserve units too have been dissolved.
However, there's some misinformation in the article:
'Merkava 3 and 4 have torsion bar suspension' - as a matter of fact, all Merkavas have either paired (Mk.I and II) or independent (Mk.III and IV) helical coil-spring suspension.
'As a result in 1983, obsolete Centurion MBTs (sic!) were withdrawn from service and modified into heavy APCs' - the last Shot platoon was withdrawn from regular service in July '92 (see picture #379 here: https://armorama.kitmaker.net/forums/260992&ord=&page=4). By 2002 all Shot reserve units too have been dissolved.
Posted: Saturday, November 11, 2017 - 08:40 AM UTC
Cheers Israel. Sorry can't comment any further. Maybe the IDF experts can chime in.
firstcircle
England - South East, United Kingdom
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Posted: Sunday, November 12, 2017 - 09:00 PM UTC
This looks nice, but some of the road wheels look to be floating a little above the track, like the second to last one on this side:
ReluctantRenegade
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Posted: Sunday, November 12, 2017 - 09:52 PM UTC
Well, now that I see it without side-skirts, I can tell you that’s DEFINITELY not a Mk.I/II type suspension, but more like a Mk.III/IV. Unless the suspension of the initial ‘Namers’ converted from Mk.Is and IIs was replaced too (which I doubt), something’s obviously wrong here: either the kit, or the description...