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SU 152 Tamiya or Trumpeter
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Posted: Thursday, June 20, 2019 - 03:59 AM UTC
Hi all,

i saw this video (see below) and i thought it would be a wonderful idea for a diorama so i was wondering which kit would be better, the Tamiya SU 152 or the Trumpeter one?

Does either kit possess an engine and if not what engine could i use, perhaps a T-34? or ar there any after market ones available?

Reviving SU152
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Posted: Thursday, June 20, 2019 - 04:35 AM UTC
ISU.....I prefer the Tamiya one.....others may prefer the Trumpy one.
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Posted: Thursday, June 20, 2019 - 04:43 AM UTC
It depends on how accurate you want it to be for a particular period. The one from Trumpeter has some post-WWII modifications such as roadwheel hub caps etc. Tamiya kit is just the thing for late WWII era.
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Posted: Thursday, June 20, 2019 - 05:04 AM UTC
If your looking to replicate the one in that video, the Trumpeter ISU-152K is a match for it.

Its a good kit, just missing a few details herr and there. Weld seams on the bow, and thebbrush guards for the headlights being the most obvious.
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Posted: Thursday, June 20, 2019 - 06:08 AM UTC
What about the two Bronco offerings.
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Posted: Thursday, June 20, 2019 - 06:13 AM UTC

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What about the two Bronco offerings.


I wasn't aware of those, can you tell me more please.
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Posted: Thursday, June 20, 2019 - 06:16 AM UTC
I believe Broncos is in 1/48 scale.
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Posted: Thursday, June 20, 2019 - 06:20 AM UTC
Hi;
There are kits that you can use for the engine; But you would have to Buy another kit and Rob the engine. The Trumpeter Type-89 Anti/tank gun kit offers the basic engine & transmission, and you would have to scratch build the other details that are present in the engine compartment !
The Trumpeter Type-89 is the Modern Chinese anti/tank gun vehicle which they released some time ago, and still can be found on ebay !!

CHEERS; MIKE.
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Posted: Thursday, June 20, 2019 - 06:25 AM UTC

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What about the two Bronco offerings.

They are SU, not ISU type(s) and, as such, are based on KV, not IS/JS chassis.
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Posted: Thursday, June 20, 2019 - 07:36 AM UTC

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"It depends on how accurate you want it to be for a particular period. The one from Trumpeter has some post-WWII modifications such as roadwheel hub caps etc. Tamiya kit is just the thing for late WWII era."


I didn't even know that. Thanks for the tip!
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Posted: Thursday, June 20, 2019 - 08:07 AM UTC
You are welcome!
You might want to check out this blog:
http://panzer35.ru/forum/47-14340-1
Bottom of the first page shows larger diameter post-war hubs with 10 bolts
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Posted: Thursday, June 20, 2019 - 11:29 AM UTC
Gotta love Russian AFV's!!! Where else could you get a vehicle like up and running that easy?
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Posted: Thursday, June 20, 2019 - 11:47 AM UTC

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Gotta love Russian AFV's!!! Where else could you get a vehicle like up and running that easy?


the original video lasted 2 hours if IIRC.

and I have now found that italeri did one of these kits as well although I know nothing about that one either
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Posted: Thursday, June 20, 2019 - 12:29 PM UTC
I am a tamiya guy,it builds up real nice.
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Posted: Thursday, June 20, 2019 - 04:02 PM UTC
A whole two hours!!!
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Posted: Thursday, June 20, 2019 - 06:18 PM UTC

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Gotta love Russian AFV's!!! Where else could you get a vehicle like up and running that easy?


the original video lasted 2 hours if IIRC.

and I have now found that italeri did one of these kits as well although I know nothing about that one either


Italeri reboxed the very old Zvezda kit. Look forward to lots of carving...
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Posted: Thursday, June 20, 2019 - 11:02 PM UTC
As Rob Langer says if you wish to do the vehicle in video the Trumpeter JSU-152K is the only kit you can use. The one in video is an ISU-152K post war version. For the engine you would need a T-54 engine, Miniart do an engine you could adapt. Not sure if anyone does a suitable transmission?

This might be of use:

https://www.scalenews.de/isu-152m-isu-152k-technische-daten-zeichnungen/

HTH
Andy
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Posted: Friday, June 21, 2019 - 03:53 AM UTC
guys i really appreciate the help you are giving as russian armour isn't my strong suit. does anyone know how many parts are involved with the trumpeter "K" version, i was hoping for an easy build and a chance to experiment with some mig products.

as for the engine, thanks for the heads up on that, i will look into it and get one from the internet, unless anyone has one spare that they don't need?

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Posted: Friday, June 21, 2019 - 08:31 AM UTC

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What about the two Bronco offerings.

They are SU, not ISU type(s) and, as such, are based on KV, not IS/JS chassis.


OP mentioned the former.
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Posted: Friday, June 21, 2019 - 08:55 AM UTC

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guys i really appreciate the help you are giving as russian armour isn't my strong suit. does anyone know how many parts are involved with the trumpeter "K" version, i was hoping for an easy build and a chance to experiment with some mig products.

as for the engine, thanks for the heads up on that, i will look into it and get one from the internet, unless anyone has one spare that they don't need?



https://www.super-hobby.com/products/JSU-152K-Armored-Self-Propelled-Gun.html?partner_id=9
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Posted: Saturday, June 22, 2019 - 08:03 AM UTC

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guys i really appreciate the help you are giving as russian armour isn't my strong suit. does anyone know how many parts are involved with the trumpeter "K" version, i was hoping for an easy build and a chance to experiment with some mig products.

as for the engine, thanks for the heads up on that, i will look into it and get one from the internet, unless anyone has one spare that they don't need?



https://www.super-hobby.com/products/JSU-152K-Armored-Self-Propelled-Gun.html?partner_id=9


I've just ordered one from eBay, the "K" version as well as the T54 engine.

what I need now is to know how to grab pictures from a YouTube video.
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Posted: Saturday, June 22, 2019 - 09:42 AM UTC
Here's your intel on the kits. http://www.4bogreen.com/is-series/plastic-and-resin-kits/1-35-scale . Also you can check out reviews for each on Scalemates. Here's the engine. https://miniart-models.com/products/37006-v-54-engine/ Mini art makes a t34 engine/tranny set. I'd think they might have a t54 tranny too. If not, drop them a line and maybe you can get the parts for the tranny from one of the t54 kits from them as "replacements"
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Posted: Sunday, June 23, 2019 - 12:20 AM UTC

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Here's your intel on the kits. http://www.4bogreen.com/is-series/plastic-and-resin-kits/1-35-scale . Also you can check out reviews for each on Scalemates. Here's the engine. https://miniart-models.com/products/37006-v-54-engine/ Mini art makes a t34 engine/tranny set. I'd think they might have a t54 tranny too. If not, drop them a line and maybe you can get the parts for the tranny from one of the t54 kits from them as "replacements"


i had a look at the first site and looked at the trumpeter folder but it only has a review for an IS-3M but there are reviews for other kits.

i have found the T-54 engine set from mini art but i haven't seen anything on their website regarding T34 engine or transmission kits...scratch thht, i found it on ebay!

does anyone know of any T-34 kits that come with a complete engine and transmission or perhaps a T-54 that has the same... are there any verlinden type of kits that have these sort of update kits possibly by another manufacturer?
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Posted: Sunday, June 23, 2019 - 09:21 AM UTC
Hi;

FYI; from what has already been talked about, your best bet would be the Miniart set. And if my memory serves me rite the only other maker was ICM; Which had the Engine in there T-28 & T-35 kits ! Verlinden has A Full Engine and compartment set, but its for either the T-72/90 kits which you can still get on ebay for around 60.00$ USD !
AS I suggested earlier you mite try and find one of the Trumpy kits that they provided the Engine & trany in there kit; They made Three kits which they gave you that option, the Type-89 and the MLRS and the SPG that looked like A 2S3 !!! ALL three can be found on ebay at reasonable money !

GOOD LUCK; MIKE.
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