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AK: Glues for Everything
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Posted: Tuesday, April 21, 2020 - 09:31 PM UTC


New glues from AK Interactive, with plastic cements, CA and PVA.

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Posted: Tuesday, April 21, 2020 - 10:38 PM UTC
Waiting for the 6 minutes Abs from AK as well and the AK Grill Master LOL
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Posted: Wednesday, April 22, 2020 - 02:32 AM UTC
Marketing is the name of the game.
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Posted: Wednesday, April 22, 2020 - 04:47 AM UTC

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Marketing is the name of the game.



Wow, yeah, it's almost as if they FINALLY invented glue! After all those years of us using just spit, water, and good faith for modelling...

But I mean, the market will show how many of us will buy it because its all new and shiny...
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Posted: Wednesday, April 22, 2020 - 06:17 AM UTC
I've officially banned myself from using extra thin cyanoacrylate. The most disasterous messes I've made have come from my misuse of extra thin CA.

I love Tamiya's extra thin cement, though, and I assume that's what AK is shooting for here. Good for them.

If extra thin CA is required, however, I am required to have an adult present.
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Posted: Wednesday, April 22, 2020 - 07:36 AM UTC

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Wow, yeah, it's almost as if they FINALLY invented glue! After all those years of us using just spit, water, and good faith for modelling...

But I mean, the market will show how many of us will buy it because its all new and shiny...



Damn, I almost splilled my coffee on my keyboard!

You really made my day.
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Posted: Wednesday, April 22, 2020 - 10:00 AM UTC

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Marketing is the name of the game.



Wow, yeah, it's almost as if they FINALLY invented glue! After all those years of us using just spit, water, and good faith for modelling...

But I mean, the market will show how many of us will buy it because its all new and shiny...



Sorry, but am I missing something here? AK are in business to make money and offer products to modellers. They already sell paint and finishing products, why not a glue line? And yes, marketing is everything and they have to sell themselves. Tamiya, Humbrol, Revell, Testors, Vallejo, etc. all have paints and glues in their product line, so why not AK? AK doesn't make any money off of us buying Tamiya or Testors glue. And we all should realize that around the world, not everyone has access to the same product lines. While some may have easy access to Tamiya or Humbrol or Revell (depending on distributors), others may have easier access to Vallejo or AK. Prices also vary from country to country depending where products are imported from and it might be cheaper to buy AK products then say Tamiya products in some places.

Just my 2 sense, but I don't think we should automatically just jump on a manufacturer for expanding their product because we think it's a dumb idea. It's not your money, and if you don't want to buy their product(s), then that is your choice.
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Posted: Wednesday, April 22, 2020 - 10:07 AM UTC
Magnet Ultra Resistant Cyanoacrylate glue

Great!!! Now I can finally glue my rubber to my leather ...
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Posted: Wednesday, April 22, 2020 - 11:23 AM UTC

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Quoted Text

Marketing is the name of the game.



Wow, yeah, it's almost as if they FINALLY invented glue! After all those years of us using just spit, water, and good faith for modelling...

But I mean, the market will show how many of us will buy it because its all new and shiny...



Sorry, but am I missing something here? AK are in business to make money and offer products to modellers. They already sell paint and finishing products, why not a glue line? And yes, marketing is everything and they have to sell themselves. Tamiya, Humbrol, Revell, Testors, Vallejo, etc. all have paints and glues in their product line, so why not AK? AK doesn't make any money off of us buying Tamiya or Testors glue. And we all should realize that around the world, not everyone has access to the same product lines. While some may have easy access to Tamiya or Humbrol or Revell (depending on distributors), others may have easier access to Vallejo or AK. Prices also vary from country to country depending where products are imported from and it might be cheaper to buy AK products then say Tamiya products in some places.

Just my 2 sense, but I don't think we should automatically just jump on a manufacturer for expanding their product because we think it's a dumb idea. It's not your money, and if you don't want to buy their product(s), then that is your choice.



Chill. Can't anybody take a joke or recognize a bit of humor anymore?
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Posted: Wednesday, April 22, 2020 - 07:47 PM UTC

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Sorry, but am I missing something here? [...]




I guess so, yes

I mean the point is this: Let them have and sell a whole glue line, there's absolutely no harm in that. In fact there is a zillion (give or take) glue lines from at least another zillion brands out there. From plastic glues in all shapes and viscosities, white glues, CAs, industrial standard super glues, rubber glues, hot glues, fluid glues, glue sticks, fillers, you name it! And in all honesty: Who of us was actually missing a proper glue for modelling? I mean like REALLY, ACTUALLY missing a well working product to glue our (plastic, resin, PE, whatever) models?

Anyway, as I said: Everybody is entitled to sell their product, glue or whatever. That's not the point. The point is their marketing babble (as specifically highlighted by a previous poster whom I quoted in my above post). I mean seriously, their subtitle reads "Ultra high quality cement". How many superlatives can one put in the description to sell a bottle of plastic glue?

And in their description it goes on (as an example): "[...] the fastest and strongest glue on the market. Unlike other plastic adhesives it dries quickly and allows gluing by capillary action, being very effective in joining parts with little contact surface." They are actually saying that their product not only does the job right. No, it is beyond a doubt better than any other product on the market! Seriously? Lets stop beating around the bush: That's just outright redicilous marketing babble! And not even a very smart one, but rather "in-your-face-awkward".

Anyway, the whole description makes it sound to me, as if they are seriously trying to tell us that they actually finally invented what we have always been looking for (and in vain so far): FINALLY some glue!

So yeah: Chill! And then you just buy what you like and what works for you, because you are absolutely entitled to
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Posted: Wednesday, April 22, 2020 - 09:05 PM UTC

Ethylacetate
5 litres, appoximately 1.3 US gallons
Capillary action: check
Fast: You bet
SWMBO-factor: She can't complain, the stuff is part of the acetone free polish removers
Large surfaces: Yep, capillary action will suck the solvent into every joint.
Improved fit of parts: Certainly. The capillary action thingy requires a good fit between parts so I have to make the parts fit before I try to "glue" them together.
Ease of application: Yep. Use a small brush to apply solvent to edge of joint, capillary action will do the rest.
Possible to glue/weld hard to reach joints: Sure, just extend the handle of the brush. The metal sleeve on most brushes can be bent to make a tool able to reach behind corners. The sleeve can be glued to the end of sprue runners to get angled handles.
Cheap: Close to $100 for 1.3 gallons. Split it into small bottles and do the maths yourself
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Posted: Wednesday, April 22, 2020 - 09:40 PM UTC

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Ethylacetate
5 litres, appoximately 1.3 US gallons
Capillary action: check
Fast: You bet
SWMBO-factor: She can't complain, the stuff is part of the acetone free polish removers
Large surfaces: Yep, capillary action will suck the solvent into every joint.
Improved fit of parts: Certainly. The capillary action thingy requires a good fit between parts so I have to make the parts fit before I try to "glue" them together.
Ease of application: Yep. Use a small brush to apply solvent to edge of joint, capillary action will do the rest.
Possible to glue/weld hard to reach joints: Sure, just extend the handle of the brush. The metal sleeve on most brushes can be bent to make a tool able to reach behind corners. The sleeve can be glued to the end of sprue runners to get angled handles.
Cheap: Close to $100 for 1.3 gallons. Split it into small bottles and do the maths yourself



There you go! The "Best Ultra High Quality Super-Value Cement for basically Everything"

Explicitely not sorry for rediculing it because they most definitely had it coming...
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Posted: Thursday, April 23, 2020 - 04:38 AM UTC
Nice to have choices even if I'm reluctant to try them out or can't easily obtain them.
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