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Chinese Guns In Korean War
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Posted: Sunday, June 07, 2020 - 09:24 AM UTC
I read that China received T-34 and Stalin tanks and SU-76 for use in the Korean War from the USSR, but purportedly never used them. Or were they used as static artillery?
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Posted: Monday, June 08, 2020 - 12:09 PM UTC
Hi;

Its Hard to say just what the Chinese used in the conflict other than there Volunteers; As for there Heavy equipment, I don't think they were Foolish enough to risk them to UN Air Power !! Now they mite have loaned or given the NKPA vehicles!

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Posted: Monday, June 08, 2020 - 02:16 PM UTC

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Hi;

Its Hard to say just what the Chinese used in the conflict other than there Volunteers; As for there Heavy equipment, I don't think they were Foolish enough to risk them to UN Air Power !! Now they mite have loaned or given the NKPA vehicles!

CHEERS; MIKE.

What prompted the question was my reading a biography of Neil Armstrong, who was a Navy pilot during the Korean War who attacked North Korean targets. It did not give heavy details of what he bombed though.
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Posted: Tuesday, June 09, 2020 - 01:59 AM UTC
The North Korean military received (and actively used) both T-34/85mm tanks and Su-76 SP guns during the Korean War. Not sure about JS tanks.

The "source" of these weapons was, of course, Russia and, if I'm not mistaken were provided to North Korea directly by Russia; not via the Chinese.
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Posted: Tuesday, June 09, 2020 - 02:32 AM UTC
Published Chinese sources have identified T-34/85, Su-76, IS-2, and even ISU-122 use during the Korean War, though it appears that the IS and ISU were held back and only used in the fire support role. Photos of all have all appeared in Chinese publications, along with kill claims, and even an article claiming an all-female T-34/85 crew... They have also published a fair amount of photos of knocked out and captured UN armor as well...
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Posted: Tuesday, June 09, 2020 - 06:51 AM UTC

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I read that China received T-34 and Stalin tanks and SU-76 for use in the Korean War from the USSR, but purportedly never used them. Or were they used as static artillery?


They used a lot of T34-85 tanks in Korea. They were more than a match against the M4a3e8 or M24 tanks, but were quite inferior to the M26 and M46. Watch the World's Greatest Tank Battles/ Korea on
You Tube. There are some photos of the SU76 in Korea, but not many as well.
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Posted: Tuesday, June 09, 2020 - 08:32 AM UTC

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I read that China received T-34 and Stalin tanks and SU-76 for use in the Korean War from the USSR, but purportedly never used them. Or were they used as static artillery?

More information has been released by China in recent years. The North Korean T-34s had mostly been lost by the end of 1950, but China committed three regiments of T-34s in February, 1951. These were marked identically to North Korean tanks, just three-digir white numbers on the turret sides, so UN forces were generally unaware who actually operated them. They were scattered piecemeal around the front for infantry support, and weren't generally used en masse. Steve Zaloga's book, T-34-85 vs M26 Pershing: Korea 1950 (Duel), https://www.amazon.com/T-34-85-M26-Pershing-Korea-1950/dp/1846039908 has some details.
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Posted: Tuesday, June 09, 2020 - 08:46 AM UTC
Hi;

Just about the only Armor used by the North, that was used South of the DMZ were T-34/85s & Su-76s !! The ISUs & JS were way to Heavy for the Rail System that was used by the North at that Time ! The Last time that the NKPA tried to injest the 85s were Destroyed on there Rail transports which was Documented in many Photos taken later in the Conflict which were caught by UN Aircraft !

CHEERS; MIKE.
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Posted: Tuesday, June 09, 2020 - 03:53 PM UTC
Another reason for the question is that there are several books on Korean War armor which I have, but there are almost no books on towed artillery and artillery positions, despite the fact that there was so much use of that during the static phase of the Korean War. The Chinese and North Koreans mist have more than simply smaller guns like the ZIS-3.
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Posted: Wednesday, June 10, 2020 - 12:50 AM UTC
Well yes there was smaller artillery than the ZiS-3 being used by North Korean and volunteer Chinese forces in the war.One was the 57 mm ZiS-2 while another was the 45 mm M1942 (M-42).Another forgotten piece was the Japanese Type 38 75 mm field gun!!!
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Posted: Wednesday, June 10, 2020 - 02:06 AM UTC
Captured 45mm anti-tank gun M1942 :



ZiS-2 :



H.P.
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Posted: Wednesday, June 10, 2020 - 02:42 AM UTC
The histories of the Korean War I've read record widespread use by the Chinese of US weapons that had originally been supplied to the Nationalist Chinese during WW2. So the Chinese had US howitzers as well as Thompson SMGs.

Various Japanese weapons were also used. The Russians had also passed on Lend-lease equipment to both China and North Korea.
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Posted: Wednesday, June 10, 2020 - 09:39 AM UTC
Thanks for all the info, never thought of Japanese weapons. Though when you think about it, unless said guns were modified, they only were useful until the ammunition ran out.
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Posted: Friday, June 12, 2020 - 11:22 PM UTC

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never thought of Japanese weapons. Though when you think about it, unless said guns were modified, they only were useful until the ammunition ran out.


https://wwiiafterwwii.wordpress.com/2015/06/19/wwii-japanese-weapons-in-the-korean-war/

H.P.
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Posted: Saturday, June 13, 2020 - 12:49 AM UTC

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never thought of Japanese weapons. Though when you think about it, unless said guns were modified, they only were useful until the ammunition ran out.


https://wwiiafterwwii.wordpress.com/2015/06/19/wwii-japanese-weapons-in-the-korean-war/

H.P.


Thanks for all the information. Like I assumed, use of old Japanese material could not have lasted for too long into the Korean War.
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